Better Wrestler #103
 

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>Shawn Michaels</option></select>

Foley. But to be fair if it weren't for Vader, Foley would not have his famous 1/2 ear.

Nor his famous amnesia

Two of the best, but Foley gets my vote.

Vader, easily.

Alright, this seems more like a final matchup to me here. SHENANIGANS

Going with Foley on this one.

Was really hoping Vader would make it to at least the final round but I have to go Foley here. Foley is one of the best mic men ever and (although it sounds cheesy as hell) is a hardcore icon.

Mr Socko :D

Narc, I gotta be honest with you here. You complain so much that I really just tune it out.

I see no complaining of the sort. Just saying you usually don't bring out the big guns like Foley til final round. Quit being sensitive, you big fluffy teddy bear.

:lol: "big guns like foley"

Although I did vote for him. :(

Huh? Mick Foley is one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time. How is he not a big gun?

"big gun"

Foley is indeed a "big gun". Its not like Vader was gonna get into the HoF or anything anyways.

Foley gets my vote, as much as I like Vader.

Really surprised by the results so far. Dunno, never thought of Foley as being that good or anything. Only stuff of his I really enjoyed was his time in ECW and a bit in WCW and WWF.

His popularity at one point in the WWF was unrivaled. Until the Rock's face-turn...ahem.

Mick Foley. His impact can basically be sumed up from 3 events : Hell in the Cell against the Undertaker, his 1st title win against the Rock, and the promo "This Is Your Life" with the Rock.

His 1st title win against the Rock probably is the moment that changed the Monday Night Wars around from being close or WCW dominating to the rise of WWF. Didn't help WCW at all giving away the results since it backfired huge on them in the end.

Vader was agile and athletic for a big guy but he didn't have these kind of career defining events similar to Foley's that actually changed the Monday Night Wars.

I love Vader but Foley probably has had a lot more impact on the 'big three' than Vader and at crucial times.

WCW he seemed to be on the cusp of greatness but not quite used right

ECW he helped build up the company

He achieve most in WWF/E. The metamorphosis from Mankind to Dude Love to Cactus Jack is unforgetable for me as is his HIAC match with Undertaker. The tag team with funk where they really helped put over the New Age Outlaws. The comedy transition and the use Mr Socko was comedy genius. Being used by Vince McMahon and being given the Hardcore title in the run up to what looked like becomeing world champion only to be turned on. The feud for the title with the Rock and winning it on Raw in a famous Monday Night Wars week. The Rock n sock connection with the This is your life segment. The feud against the McMahon/Helmsley era. Commisioner Foley.

All good memories

Not really interested in his TNA career as such but he's still going and has a successful writing career on the side.

Vader is no doubt the better wrestler. If I was voting on a personal favorite or by career achievement I might go with Foley but there is no way that Vader should lose to Mick in a BETTER WRESTLER poll. :rant:



BTW I'm Schlomey. Hey.:wave:

IMO, it's STILL Vader time!!

Listen to the Jayman. He knows his shit.

really really big man made a really really big fail :lol:

nuh uh

cheater ;)

I don't get it, you could have said the same for Muta last round.

Bonified stuntman my ass my vote goes to Foley.

fixed :y:

Thanks I knew it didn't sound quite right.

Well, there goes Vader's chances at HOF.

Ok,

So Vader beats The Great Muta in the last round by 3 votes. Now Mick Foley is absolutely squashing Vader in votes for this round. Mick Foley was as Ric Flair would say "a glorified stunt man" which he is. He is famous for taking unbelievable bumps. That does not make Mick Foley a "Better Wrestler" than Vader. Vader beats Muta, barely, then Foley is killing Vader. So what alot of you are saying is that Mick Foley is a far better wrestler than The Great Muta........

Alot of you fuckers need to learn the definition of the term "wrestler" and "better wrestler". Muta was one of the best ever. Why Foley is going to advance for being thrown off the top of a cage is beyond me and thats what people will associate with Mick Foley, being thrown off a cage. Not a great match with this wrestler on Wrestlemania, or SummerSlam for instance. This is bullshit.

No you all can get your panties in a wad, I don't give a fuck, but you all know I am making sense and anyone who thinks Foley is a better wrestler than The Great Muta or Vader for that matter started watching wrestling for the first time yesterday.

There is no definition for the better wrestler. Personally, I look at it as better entertainer, and honestly in my opinion, I can safely say I would put zero people over Foley as an entertainer. Foley was a master on the stick, despite his weight, he still put on incredibly entertaining matches, and was universally loved. Was Vader universally loved, or a master on the stick? No. He was a great wrestler, but he is nowhere near where Foley is, and personally, neither is Muta.

Complete set up by a certain person that was upset by the last results, Edge made it but he didn't have to go against freakin Muta and Foley. Vader is better than Edge.

You are a tool.

That is all.

Just for future ref, I would vote Taker, Austin, HHH and The Rock over Foley.

That is all.

I really have to go with Foley on this one, sure Vader is one of the best big men around, but Foley truely sacraficed his body for the fans, doing insane things that no one else would do. So I have to give Foley this one without a doubt.

Gimme a list of Vader's best matches and gimme a list of Mick Foley's best matches. If you put 'em together it's pretty easy to find out who was the better performer. As for The Great Muta, he's clearly one of the greatest of all time, but no one here has seen him enough to realize this. Just a little bit of common sense.