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Cuzziebro 12-10-2009 08:56 AM

Tommy Dreamer/ECW/HOF
 
After watching ECW, like I do every week since it is by far the best show at the moment, more specifically the Tommy Dreamer/Zack Ryder confrontation. I started thinking about Dreamer being I guess the ultimate jobber. Always putting others ahead of himself even though he is still respected as a very amazing wrestler, some may even call a legend.

Which got me to thinking, will Dreamer be the first die hard ECW superstar to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame? I don't think any other superstars who have appeared on ECW before WWE have made it except Austin.. unless I am wrong..?
Or do you think Dreamer won't make it to the WWE Hall of Fame at all?

Ermaximus 12-10-2009 09:50 AM

As much as he has done for them, they'd be pretty cold for not letting him have that at least. Granted I don't think he'll be the first ECW guy inducted, something tells me RVD gets that, but yes, he'll get there 1 day.

D Mac 12-10-2009 10:00 AM

Has Tommy been on any other brand other then EC Dub? Wasn't he a member of Raw at one time? I forget.

DAMN iNATOR 12-10-2009 10:46 AM

Like Ermax said, RVD first, then Dreamer. I'd also like to see Sabu get in there one day.

Ermaximus 12-10-2009 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Mac (Post 2850652)
Has Tommy been on any other brand other then EC Dub? Wasn't he a member of Raw at one time? I forget.

I do believe you are correct. He was on Raw for a while after the Invasion and then he was moved to ECW when they brought it back. He was the last Hardcore Champ too until the title was unified with RVD's Intercontinental Title.

DAMN iNATOR 12-10-2009 11:01 AM

Yeah, it's a shame about the Hardcore Championship. I still don't see what the harm could possibly be with bringing it back, maybe just without the 24/7 rule which may sound like sacrilege to some, but I think it'd work just fine.

One idea to re-introduce it would be possibly have Edge return stating that he convinced one Mick Foley before he left WWE to give up his half of the claim to co-ownership of the title, and then have Edge "donate" it to the ECW (or whatever it's soon to be called) brand, for use there.

Savio 12-10-2009 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuzziebro619 (Post 2850583)
I don't think any other superstars who have appeared on ECW before WWE have made it except Austin.

Foley, RVD....

Ermaximus 12-10-2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 2850731)
Foley, RVD....

Benoit, Jericho, Mysterio....

The Mackem 12-10-2009 11:31 AM

Koko B Ware

There is hope for everybody.

Ermaximus 12-10-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mackem (Post 2850756)
Koko B Ware

There is hope for everybody.

Mackem has set the bar guys. Let it be know that if Koko can get in, so can Dreamer.

Nicky Fives 12-10-2009 12:16 PM

Dreamer shouldn't get in, but eventually he will...... like mentioned before, Koko has made it in

HBPunk 12-10-2009 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 2850713)
Like Ermax said, RVD first, then Dreamer. I'd also like to see Sabu get in there one day.

Sabu?? He was only in WWE for like 12-18 months and he did nothing except piss management off. I know hes nuts but hes not a good wrestler at all and he botches in almost every match, i would be stunned and saddened if he gets in

Supreme Olajuwon 12-10-2009 12:53 PM

Terry Funk and Eddie Guerrero are both ECW guys.

jerichoholicninja 12-10-2009 12:54 PM

They probably should have an ECW on non-WWE wing of the Hall. Most of the ECW greats did nothing in WWE but still made huge contributions to wrestling in general.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-10-2009 12:57 PM

I think Dreamer might get in as the ECW inductee. I think they'll put one in just as a salute to the organization that worked so well with the WWF and it'll either be Dreamer or Heyman. The other guys with ECW ties all had huge success outside of ECW, but with Dreamer the only thing that comes to mind is ECW.

Dante69 12-10-2009 02:26 PM

Bastion Booger....because there was nothing more extreme then seeing his fat ass in that outfit:y:

Emperor Smeat 12-10-2009 10:05 PM

I would have thought Taz/Tazz would have been the 1st long time ECW guy to be in the WWE Hall but since he left for TNA, I could see Vince snub him and send in Dreamer as the 1st ECW entry.

Both guys do deserve to be in it if they start including ECW wrestlers.

Afterlife 12-11-2009 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick55555 (Post 2850814)
Dreamer shouldn't get in, but eventually he will......

I'd like to know why.

ministrychick77 12-11-2009 07:30 AM

cause he deserves it.

heyman, dreamer or rvd will be the ecw people to get in the HOF

Droford 12-11-2009 08:45 AM

I dont think Tommy Dreamer will get in first. Im almost willing to bet RVD gets in first, and thats a slim shot at best..

Anybody Thrilla 12-11-2009 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuzziebro619 (Post 2850583)
...even though he is still respected as a very amazing wrestler...

Who the fuck said that shit?

Xero 12-11-2009 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 2852810)
I dont think Tommy Dreamer will get in first. Im almost willing to bet RVD gets in first, and thats a slim shot at best..

Heyman will get in first.

Honestly I could see one where they do a few ECW guys. Those three would be the most likely.

Ermaximus 12-11-2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2853145)
Heyman will get in first.

Honestly I could see one where they do a few ECW guys. Those three would be the most likely.

I could see Heyman most definately. Then RVD, and then Dreamer. I'd say Tazz, Foley, and the Dudleys all would get there too, but as long as they are in TNA, there isn't a hell's chance. Same could be said for Bischoff when you think about it. I mean if you induct Heyman, you might as well induct Bischoff too.

Xero 12-11-2009 01:53 PM

Bischoff deserves it, for sure. But with him pretty much declaring war against Vince again I can't see it.

Cuzziebro 12-11-2009 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2853126)
Who the fuck said that shit?

This is true....

Anybody Thrilla 12-12-2009 08:04 PM

What makes Tommy Dreamer a 'very amazing wrestler'? He's a decent worker who has soem decent charisma, but he's extremely limited in the ring and he's never been in a five star classic in his life.

DAMN iNATOR 12-12-2009 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 2850849)
Sabu?? He was only in WWE for like 12-18 months and he did nothing except piss management off. I know hes nuts but hes not a good wrestler at all and he botches in almost every match, i would be stunned and saddened if he gets in

His father got in and he was never part of WWE at all. Also, they should mostly consider him on his merits of what he did in the original ECW, not just in WWE.

Gerard 12-12-2009 10:57 PM

Speaking of dreamer, anyone remember this:

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I almost fucking hurled while watching that, to be honest i think takers reaction was pretty genuine as well. Starts around the 6:30 mark.

Lock Jaw 12-12-2009 11:10 PM

I could see Heyman getting in, but I don't think RVD or Dreamer deserve to be in. The again... Koko B. Ware.

Swiss Ultimate 12-13-2009 11:57 AM

Sabu deserves it for his barbwire ropes match with Terry Funk alone.

DAMN iNATOR 12-13-2009 03:04 PM

That's very true, DttS...glad somebody sees things from my perspective.:)


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