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Jordan 12-16-2009 12:05 PM

Shawn Michaels/Undertaker II
 
Well how do we feel about this?

JR had this to say

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Also, HBK challenging the Undertaker for a match at WM26 captured my imagination. These two created magic in Houston at WM25 and the question will be asked if both future WWE HOF'ers can recreate such a moment one more time. I will always consider being a part of the broadcast team for WM25 and being a small part of the HBK-Taker presentation as one of the greatest experiences that I've had in this business.

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 12:09 PM

HBK will lose again.

The Jayman 12-16-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2861521)
HBK will lose again.

That is why I am not for it at WM26. Yeah it would be an awesome match and I know they could probably top their WM25 encounter but we would already know the outcome. Taker wins

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 12:13 PM

I think Taker has lost a step or two since last year, too.

Jordan 12-16-2009 12:14 PM

You might be right. Maybe Taker will retire, he isn't at his top game right now. And for sure, he isn't as able as he was for the match last year. But these guys matches always change and have always been very very good. Ground Zero IYH 97, Hell In A Cell 97, Royal Rumble 98, and of course last years Mania.

If anyone can top it it's HBK.

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 12:16 PM

Why did you call it Hell In A Cell and not Bad Blood?

Anyway, yeah , they work well together. We know that. The match won't be a stinker. I can't see it going down too much differently than it did last year, though. They're both pretty much the same characters from WM25. The only added element is that Michaels already lost once and he may be more motivated. I don't think that's enough to snap The Undertaker's streak, though. Maybe if Michaels put his career vs. The Undertaker's streak, we'd have something special.

Jordan 12-16-2009 12:17 PM

I gotta say though...

The challenge was really well done and pumped me up for WM.

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 12:17 PM

Assuming that they actually go ahed with this plan, I applaud them for booking a Wrestlemania match in the middle of December as opposed to a week beforehand on Superstars.

Jordan 12-16-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2861538)
Why did you call it Hell In A Cell and not Bad Blood?

Anyway, yeah , they work well together. We know that. The match won't be a stinker. I can't see it going down too much differently than it did last year, though. They're both pretty much the same characters from WM25. The only added element is that Michaels already lost once and he may be more motivated. I don't think that's enough to snap The Undertaker's streak, though. Maybe if Michaels put his career vs. The Undertaker's streak, we'd have something special.

I imagine it will come to that or Career vs Career. I could imagine HBK and Taker will come up with a totally different match that would rock just as much or more.

Loose Cannon 12-16-2009 12:19 PM

don't really like it at all. just seems way to forced. it's like the writers are just like "well the fans loved it last year, so let's do it again. Now that's one less match to worry about."

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 12:21 PM

The worst case scenario here is a giant swerve where The Undertaker's streak is snapped by a finger poke and he joins DX.

Jordan 12-16-2009 12:21 PM

I think it is a smart move. Because it will be a big draw and it gives room to have a title match with a newer superstar like Sheamus or Punk.

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 2861545)
I think it is a smart move. Because it will be a big draw and it gives room to have a title match with a newer superstar like Sheamus or Punk.

There's still a possibility that The Undertaker will still be champion by Wrestlemania. Hopefully, that's not the 'added element' that this year's match would need.

Splaya 12-16-2009 12:30 PM

Look at the way the card is shaping up

Taker vs HBK
Cena vs Hopefully The Rock

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 12:31 PM

Chill out on that Cena/Rock noise. There have been no on-camera indications of that at all.

The Mask 12-16-2009 12:34 PM

i was wondering about this the other night. since i don't watch wrestling anymore but i ordered wrestlemania all the same, did undertaker take much time out after his suicide dive that pretty much was a literal neckbreaking suicide dive?

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mask (Post 2861572)
i was wondering about this the other night. since i don't watch wrestling anymore but i ordered wrestlemania all the same, did undertaker take much time out after his suicide dive that pretty much was a literal neckbreaking suicide dive?

He was actually wrestling a few weeks after Wrestlemania, but after THAT, he took a pretty good amount of time off.

Splaya 12-16-2009 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2861563)
Chill out on that Cena/Rock noise. There have been no on-camera indications of that at all.

Cena said that on RAW he will not lose until he gets the WWE title back. So either he gets it back really, really quick, or he faces an unstoppable opponent at Wrestlema.......

Never mind, he's gonna face Taker at WM. if the WWE cannot get the Rock to come back and do it, it's Taker vs Cena at WM and HBK vs Taker is simply a smokescreen

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 12:50 PM

That has nothing to do with The Rock. You settle the fuck down, Splaya.

Loose Cannon 12-16-2009 12:54 PM

I'd personally rather see Cena/Taker for the belt and Cena ending the streak. He's the only guy (other then my personal choice if Kane) that I want ending it. It kind of passes the torch.

Splaya 12-16-2009 12:54 PM

Hey I'm sure since you're on here, your child is off somewhere crying.

SOMEONE GIVE ME THE NUMBER FOR CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES

Splaya 12-16-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 2861598)
I'd personally rather see Cena/Taker for the belt and Cena ending the streak. He's the only guy (other then my personal choice if Kane) that I want ending it. It kind of passes the torch.

I would agree. Vince always claims he wants to pass it to someone he can trust. With the exception of his son in law, Cena is the only logical choice because he will be around forever.

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Splaya (Post 2861599)
Hey I'm sure since you're on here, your child is off somewhere crying.

SOMEONE GIVE ME THE NUMBER FOR CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES

He's actually right next to me. Way to be relevant to what we're talking about though, dickhole.

Swiss Ultimate 12-16-2009 01:25 PM

Sheamus VS. Taker WM27

Jordan 12-16-2009 01:34 PM

No, HBK challenged Taker its HBK/Taker II. Their not going to change it unless somebody gets injured. They are competing a lot that weekend with all of the Indy's that will be in the area as well as UFC which has a ppv the night before WM26. WWE needs a "Money in the bank" for WM and HBK/Taker II will deliver.

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 01:40 PM

Undertaker never ACCEPTED the challenge.

Jordan 12-16-2009 01:42 PM

He will. God damnit.

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 01:46 PM

What if he has to wash his hair that day or something?

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 01:48 PM

Undertaker/HBK is still infinitely more likely than Cena/Rock AT THIS VERY POINT IN TIME. Not to say Cena/Rock definitely won't happen (and I hope it does), but we should at very least wait until the Rock is Raw's guest host, Splaya. You fucking cock head.

Swiss Ultimate 12-16-2009 01:57 PM

This is not Undertaker VS. HBK 2...

This is potentially Undertaker VS. HBK at Wrestlemania 2.

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 02:01 PM

Undertaker/HBK 5?

Splaya 12-16-2009 02:06 PM

Cena vs Rock at WM 26

Jordan 12-16-2009 02:13 PM

I was thinking WM26 could be pretty amazing... I would like to see

Undertaker vs HBK - Career vs Career
CM Punk vs Rey Mysterio(c) - World HVY Title
Cena(c) vs Batista (RR Winner) - WWE Championship
Edge vs Chris Jericho
Triple H vs Sheamus
Orton vs Rhodes vs Diabiase
Christian and Kane vs William Regal and Big Show - WWE Unified Tag Team Championship
John Morrison vs Drew McIntyre vs R-Truth vs vs The Miz vs Kofi Kingston vs vs Yoshi Tatsu vs Shelton Benjamin vs Bryan Danielson - Money In The Bank Ladder Match

I think CM Punk vs Rey would be a great WM main match plus good use of both guys.
Cena and Batista isn't totally overdone and it hasn't been done with Batista heel. So I think this is likley and could be interesting.
Edge vs Jericho is simple enough.
Triple H vs Sheamus seems likley to me if HBK is busy. Triple H may want to put him over seeing as they are buds.
I want to see legacy explode and each guy go in three different directions and I think this would be a good way of doing it.
The Tag Match is just an idea... Christian used Kane as one of his defenders on Raw against Regal. It is possible the titles could end up on the two of them I guess, or Regal who would recruit Big Show to end Christian because his monsters aren't working out that well.
If Shelton is in another MITB he has to win. It would be ludacris. The guy is built on ladder matches and I can't recall him winning one.

Jordan 12-16-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2861712)
Undertaker/HBK 5?

I seriously doubt they would promote it as the 5th match.

Anybody Thrilla 12-16-2009 02:18 PM

Fuck how they'd promote it. I'm guessing as to what it would actually be.

Waylander 12-16-2009 02:28 PM

I hate rematches to be honest, but if it was career vs career I'd be pretty stoked.

Juan 12-16-2009 02:30 PM

What an odd thing to hate.

Joesgonnakillyou 12-16-2009 02:49 PM

If they leave it one more year and just go with Cena Taker it'd work more for me.

Mr. Pierre 12-16-2009 02:58 PM

I really hope it happens again.

Two of the greatest of all time put on arguably one of the best matches in WrestleMania history last year, and who knows how much longer they're both going to be around for.

I say fuck it, the build's already there, and let's enjoy.

HBPunk 12-16-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2861538)
Why did you call it Hell In A Cell and not Bad Blood?

Like, why? Dickhead

I dont see the point in this match unless HBK definately wins, hes a much bigger star than fucking Undertaker ever was, who cares if he's undefeated at Wrestlemania, so is that Australian gimp Nathan Jones. I never lost there either


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