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Shaggy 04-09-2004 05:56 PM

Spiderman 3 ***Thoughts***
 
Alright as most of us know they are already planning a spiderman 3 to be done. They believe that the second movie is gonna do very well. Im not gonna disagree cause so far from the trailers that they have shown it looks pretty amazing. What do yall think will be done in the Spiderman 3 movie. I was watching the trailer for 2 a second ago and a thought that popped in my head would be that since Punisher showed up in some of the comics and on the cartoon and all that, that it would be cool if The Punisher does well in theatres for them to bring Thomas Jane on board and give him some scenes in it. It should be the next step since Punisher is coming out. That would be a great cross over thing. But yall might not agree. I want yalls perspective of what yall think should happen in the next movie or who Spidey should fight.

road doggy dogg 04-09-2004 05:58 PM

How about we wait until the second one comes out before worrying about the third

Mr. Nerfect 04-09-2004 07:56 PM

I think it's alright for speculation. Maybe we could see The Punisher making a cameo, probably on the hunt for Spider-Man. I think he chased Spider-Man when the Hob Goblin framed him for something didn't he? Or was that Chameleon? Either way, I think both would make good villains for the 3rd installment.

Loose Cannon 04-09-2004 10:55 PM

I can't wait until they do Carnage, if they ever do.

Savio 04-09-2004 11:07 PM

What about Hammer Hand as the main villian? J/K
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Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2004 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
I can't wait until they do Carnage, if they ever do.

Same here, but replace Carnage with Venom. I hope they make Carnage full CGI, though. A Venom movie, then a Venom and Carnage movie= :drool:.

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 01:21 AM

Filming in 3s is the way to go these days.

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 01:22 AM

I just hope they'll do more than 3...If the other ones are done well enough.

CBright7831 04-10-2004 01:29 AM

Oh trust me, for now on, every Spider-man movie will do well for now on.

Let's just hope Tobey Maguire doesn't get the Mark Hamill effect.

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 02:17 AM

What, fu</>cked up in a car crash? :?:

FacelessBum 04-10-2004 02:45 AM

lol

Shaggy 04-10-2004 03:05 AM

I believe that somewhere I they interviewed Raimi and he mentioned that in the next film he wanted to fit Venom in somehow even if it was just showing the beginning of him. That would be great. This movie series will like go on forever and just keep on making movies untill they start to fail in the money business. Which will likely never happen unless they give Spidey a rocket pack and and give him a metal uniform and make him look all futurized. (SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN)

Mr. Monday Morning 04-10-2004 10:25 AM

The only mention Raimi has made of 3 thus far is to say he wants Black Cat in it. Which makes sense when you see they're focusing just as much, if not more, on the issues with Peter & Mary Jane as much as the actual Spiderman crimefighting stuff.

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 11:56 AM

Well, Black Cat would fit in with the chronology of bringing in Venom...

CBright7831 04-10-2004 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
What, fu</>cked up in a car crash? :?:

No. The Mark Hamill effect is where you only get recognized in franchise films. Outside of Star Wars, can anyone name one good movie role Hamill has had? And don't count the voices he does for cartoons either.

Savio 04-10-2004 04:20 PM

Spiderman 3 villian
 
I only put the famous ones in. (I.E. ones I heard of)

Guest #1 04-10-2004 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CBright7831
No. The Mark Hamill effect is where you only get recognized in franchise films. Outside of Star Wars, can anyone name one good movie role Hamill has had? And don't count the voices he does for cartoons either.

Corvette Summer.... Hot action, hot cars... what more could one want? Hamill's masterpeice! Still watch it from time to time.

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CBright7831
No. The Mark Hamill effect is where you only get recognized in franchise films. Outside of Star Wars, can anyone name one good movie role Hamill has had? And don't count the voices he does for cartoons either.

Uhhhh...K.

Because having a ton of cartoon roles counts for nothing, especially since it's pretty much ALL he's done...

Loose Cannon 04-10-2004 04:32 PM

I was actually going to do this yesterday, but opted not to. Anyway, my favorite is Demo Goblin, so my choice is OTHER

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 04:35 PM

Green Goblin.

The Icon of Elisim 04-10-2004 04:48 PM

I'd love to see Mysterio or Venom, but I think that Venom needs a movie to be built up (which they may have done in the second, so I'll wait on that one). Based on the previews from the second one it looks like they are playing up Harry Osbourne as a major character.

So I'm going to bet that Spiderman 3 will be Green Goblin 2, but I could also see them doing the Chameleon

CBright7831 04-10-2004 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Uhhhh...K.

Because having a ton of cartoon roles counts for nothing, especially since it's pretty much ALL he's done...

Correct.

CBright7831 04-10-2004 05:11 PM

If the Goblin does return, I hope there is another villain with him.

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 05:12 PM

Thank you for establishing yourself as a retard.

Smitty 04-10-2004 05:29 PM

Venom, the green goblin 2 (harry), or the hob goblin.

Savio 04-10-2004 05:31 PM

Doesn't king pin always have some other guy with him?

CBright7831 04-10-2004 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Thank you for establishing yourself as a retard.

No.

CBright7831 04-10-2004 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior
Doesn't king pin always have some other guy with him?

It's been awhile since I watched the cartoons so I've forgot.

I don't want to see Goblin/Spider-man fight through the whole movie again. Especially after Goblin kicked the shit out of Spidey 98% of the time.

Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2004 06:01 PM

I voted Venom, as he rules it all, but quite frankly I think Hob Goblin or Green Goblin 2 should get a shot down the line, too. I'm hoping they make a Sinister Six one so they should establish Chameleon.

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior
Doesn't king pin always have some other guy with him?

No, though he often has either hired muscle or a henchman around with him.

One such instance would be the Hobgoblin...

Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2004 06:09 PM

Here's an idea:

In Spiderman 3, the story focuses on the Grreen and Hob Goblins, maybe the Black Cat and/or Punisher could help Spidey take both on at once. Then in Spiderman 4, the Symbiote gets to Earth, and Spiderman gets his suit upgraded, which allows him to go around cleaning up villains like Rhino, Scorpion, and The Vulture, before it breaks off and becomes Venom with Eddie Brock.

Spiderman 5 features Eddie Brock getting busted out of the mental institution by Carnage, allowing the two to go on an unstoppable rampage. Then when Spiderman 6 hits cinemas, Dr. Octopus, Rhino, Chameleon, Scorpion, Vulture and Mysterio become the Sinister Six, with eventually Vulture dying, and him being replaced with Electro.

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alienoid06
Here's an idea:

In Spiderman 3, the story focuses on the Grreen and Hob Goblins, maybe the Black Cat and/or Punisher could help Spidey take both on at once. Then in Spiderman 4, the Symbiote gets to Earth, and Spiderman gets his suit upgraded, which allows him to go around cleaning up villains like Rhino, Scorpion, and The Vulture, before it breaks off and becomes Venom with Eddie Brock.

Spiderman 5 features Eddie Brock getting busted out of the mental institution by Carnage, allowing the two to go on an unstoppable rampage. Then when Spiderman 6 hits cinemas, Dr. Octopus, Rhino, Chameleon, Scorpion, Vulture and Mysterio become the Sinister Six, with eventually Vulture dying, and him being replaced with Electro.

Originally, Star Wars (the original trilogy) was written as one movie.

Similarly, too much happens in these plot ideas.

The symbiote "introduction" should be one movie in and of itself, for example. Let him mop up a few bad guys, yeah, but don't intro Venom (except at like the end of the movie or something, and only for a second as a cliffhanger).

Green- and Hobgoblin should be kept seperate. I liked the original comic storylines where Spidey actually thought he was fighting the Green Goblin again at first...

Black Cat and Punisher in one movie's a lot, especially with the Punisher having his own movie coming out. What'd be cool is a crossover movie, but I digress.

The Destroyer 04-10-2004 06:23 PM

I have no idea who the Prowler and Tombstone are, woo. :-\

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Destroyer
I have no idea who the Prowler and Tombstone are, woo. :-\

Pwroler actually wasn't a villain for that long. He was a 70s stereotype (Ghetto kid on the wrong side of the law) with some gadgets to back it up. There were several of 'em throughout the 70s in Spider-Man, including the ever popular Rocket Racer.

Eventually, Prowler became a "heo"/ partner of Spider-Man.

Tombstone is Lonnie Lincoln, an old "friend" of Joe Robinson, from the Bugle Staff. He was mostly muscle early on, used to bully Joe. Lonnie gets exposed to some chemicals in one of the Osbourne Factories that makes him impervious and "stone" cold (He already had the nickname, however, as an albino).

He became a staple in latter-day Daredevil, as well...

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 06:44 PM

BTW, a well-done Mysterio would rock...

Imagine him hitting a 619 for a clean victory over Parker...:shifty:

Loose Cannon 04-10-2004 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
No, though he often has either hired muscle or a henchman around with him.

One such instance would be the Hobgoblin...

I think he was talking about Smyth KK. I don't know if he was in the comics, but he was in the cartoon as King Pin's right hand man.

13 04-10-2004 07:25 PM

Venom is a god damned badass... Spidey needs to fight the symbiotes.

Kane Knight 04-10-2004 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
I think he was talking about Smyth KK. I don't know if he was in the comics, but he was in the cartoon as King Pin's right hand man.

Spencer, I believe, was funded by the Kingpin later in life, and Allistaire later (I think) followed up...But it wasn't a fulltime thing...And that didn't last long...

Problem is, It's been ages since I saw the return of Allistaire (the whole Spider-Slayers lineup).

Anyways, neither were a regular fixture of the entourage, outside of the cartoon.

Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2004 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Originally, Star Wars (the original trilogy) was written as one movie.

Similarly, too much happens in these plot ideas.

The symbiote "introduction" should be one movie in and of itself, for example. Let him mop up a few bad guys, yeah, but don't intro Venom (except at like the end of the movie or something, and only for a second as a cliffhanger).

Green- and Hobgoblin should be kept seperate. I liked the original comic storylines where Spidey actually thought he was fighting the Green Goblin again at first...

Black Cat and Punisher in one movie's a lot, especially with the Punisher having his own movie coming out. What'd be cool is a crossover movie, but I digress.

Yeah. I was thinking "This movie better be more than 3 hours." when I was typing that, which is ridiculous. I think maybe instead of having the Green Goblin 2, have Harry try and become him, only to have him die of it poisoning his body. He'd be filled with rage against Spiderman until the day he died. It would change the whole plot of the story, but it might be good in the end.

Savio 04-10-2004 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
No, though he often has either hired muscle or a henchman around with him.

One such instance would be the Hobgoblin...

I remember he had a bunch of guys with him before like Rhino cameleon mysterio and Kurt angle (j/k)


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