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Rock Bottom 01-02-2010 01:03 AM

You don't deserve the ball.
 
Name a few wrestlers who have gotten time lately that you don't really think are cutting the mustard. If I told you mine, I'd probably get flamed to hell. *coughjerichosheamouscough*

Xero 01-02-2010 01:05 AM

Sheamus did not deserve the ball. At all.

Jericho was fucked by bad writing.

Xero 01-02-2010 01:08 AM

Cena shouldn't have gotten the ball when he did. He was bound for glory (lol TNA reference), no doubt, but he needed a year or two more of big build.

It was all because Lesnar left and left them scrambling for a new face to carry the company. I blame Lesnar for Cena.

Rock Bottom 01-02-2010 01:13 AM

So I don't have to cower behind a rock for saying that I think Sheamus sucks? Good to know...

Jericho is amazing, don't get me wrong, you're probably right about the bad writing. I just think he sucks absolute shit as a heel now.

Xero 01-02-2010 01:14 AM

Where have you been where people think Sheamus is a good champion?

Look at how he got to where he is since coming to RAW. He beat a few jobbers, beat Cena, then beat MVP, who is a mid carder. Is this really how you book a champion?

People are blowing him because he beat Cena, that's the only plus he has. It's the "anybody but Cena" mentality.

Fair enough about Jericho, some people like his current character and some don't.

Kane Knight 01-02-2010 01:19 AM

Recently, it seems like Jericho's lines have been written with the intent of allowing DX to make gay jokes, so...

I have nothing against Sheamus, but my response to him winning was "where the fuck did this come from?" Still, he seems to be getting people to cheer Cena...Maybe that was the point.

Kane86 01-02-2010 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2881781)
Where have you been where people think Sheamus is a good champion?

Look at how he got to where he is since coming to RAW. He beat a few jobbers, beat Cena, then beat MVP, who is a mid carder. Is this really how you book a champion?

People are blowing him because he beat Cena, that's the only plus he has. It's the "anybody but Cena" mentality.

Fair enough about Jericho, some people like his current character and some don't.

Get one thing right Xero if you're going to be a smark. There is no such thing as bookers in the ENTERTAINMENT company WWE. There are only comedy writers who have never even seen a wrestling match only Entertainment matches.

Kane86 01-02-2010 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2881785)
Recently, it seems like Jericho's lines have been written with the intent of allowing DX to make gay jokes, so...

I have nothing against Sheamus, but my response to him winning was "where the fuck did this come from?" Still, he seems to be getting people to cheer Cena...Maybe that was the point.

Everyone are robots in WWE they do as they are told if they lost it alltomorrow they would be fucked.

Xero 01-02-2010 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane86 (Post 2881820)
Get one thing right Xero if you're going to be a smark. There is no such thing as bookers in the ENTERTAINMENT company WWE. There are only comedy writers who have never even seen a wrestling match only Entertainment matches.

Michael Hayes, Vince McMahon.

Kane86 01-02-2010 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2881825)
Michael Hayes, Vince McMahon.

We are talking about RAW not Smackdown and Micheal Hayes is probably so tied down its retarded after all the shit he has pulled. I just heard a RAW commercial on MSNBC. But Anyways Vince is only about Skits he could give a fuck less about wrestling or I mean Ring Entertainment whatever he calls it.

No such thing as booking in the E machine only writing and being told what to do as an Entertainer.

Xero 01-02-2010 02:25 AM

Stop being stupid.

Kane86 01-02-2010 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2881833)
Stop being stupid.

I'm not being stupid I am telling the truth when your 2 hour wrestling show is 1 hour and 20 minutes of skits. That shows what Vince only cares about don't understand Vince is ashamed of being in the wrestling business even though it made him Rich. Also FCW now is only made of Super Models Primarily with the Exception of Low-Ki. Vince doesn't want guys who can actually wrestle. Only wants Lame as So called Story tellers as Botchtista calls them.

I mean at the rate Vince Keeps going its going to be Entertainamania today.

Sure Sheamus and Drew Mcintyre worked the Indys but most guys are just there for 40 minute stupid ass non funny skits.

Xero 01-02-2010 02:35 AM

You knew what I meant by "bookers".

Kane86 01-02-2010 02:46 AM

Then make sure you get there Name right for one thing: Wrestlers=Entertainers

Bookers=Writers

There is no wrestling in WWE anymore its joke of a company and now its just a lame ass version of Mad TV with a ring. Hell CM Punk even cut a promo that was way too long on smack down tonight.

Xero 01-02-2010 03:48 AM

Okay, this is a first.

Kane86 is on ignore. I have never ignored anyone on TPWW before.

Congratulations, you retard.

Savio 01-02-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2881844)
You knew what I meant by "bookers".

Booker Ts Family.

RVDmark 01-02-2010 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2881781)
It's the "anybody but Cena" mentality.

Dont underestimate that mentality, there's a lot of it about. Its not that Sheamus is good (yet, I believe he will be good), its that he is a fresh face that hasnt been done to death like HHH, Cena, Orton and Batista and combinations of.

And its unfair to say Jericho is harmed by bad booking, yet Sheamus is not. Since he won the title its like he is an afterthought behind promoting DX and Cena.

And sheamus is from the UK so screw it, I'm a fan, there I said it.

RVDmark 01-02-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Savior (Post 2881912)
Booker Ts Family.

LOL

Rammsteinmad 01-02-2010 09:07 AM

Triple H.

Mike the Metal Ed 01-02-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RVDmark (Post 2881918)
And sheamus is from the UK so screw it, I'm a fan, there I said it.

Except he isn't. ;)

The Pope 01-02-2010 09:42 AM

Sheamus, D-X

Team Sheep 01-02-2010 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVDmark (Post 2881918)
And sheamus is from the UK so screw it, I'm a fan, there I said it.

:roll:

AngryMidjit 01-02-2010 11:15 AM

sure is a little nerd rage going on in this thread. But I for one actually enjoyed the whole jericho, petition thing on raw, it reminded me of his white house thing in wcw. even though everything else he does right now is shit.
cena, sheamus, and dx can all suck my ginormous balls

RVDmark 01-02-2010 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike the Metal Ed (Post 2881929)
Except he isn't. ;)

Southern Ireland, Northern Ireland, its all the same. Anyway its close enough. I still stand by my statement that at least its a fresh alternative.

Xero 01-02-2010 01:10 PM

Funaki would be a fresh alternative too. Good worker, never been done before...

Would you put the title on him?

TGR 01-02-2010 01:20 PM

I would. Funaki is awesome.

Swiss Ultimate 01-02-2010 03:42 PM

I just hate it when they make someone champ and then push him in the mid-card.

Big Show was opening up Raw when he got the belt way back when.

Stupid booking.

Swiss Ultimate 01-02-2010 03:47 PM

Oh, Jeff Jarrett never deserved the ball.

Xero 01-02-2010 03:52 PM

I still say they put it on Sheamus in the hopes he'd fail and they could go on to say "we tried to push new talent, it didn't work".

Jaded-Dragon 01-02-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2882275)
I still say they put it on Sheamus in the hopes he'd fail and they could go on to say "we tried to push new talent, it didn't work".

LOL good point, I didn't think about that.

This is one (only one) of the major problems with WWE. The only way they know how to push someone is to put a title on them. What they fail to realize is that they have done this so many times that the titles have really lost all meaning. I mean christ, how long was Shawn Michaels in the WWF before he got his run as champion? He's been a world champ 4 times, compared to say, Cena, who is on his 7th run as world champ.

Remember when Razor was hot shit because he was a 4 time IC champion? Yeah, stuff like that means nothing now.

FourFifty 01-02-2010 04:49 PM

Sheamus- Really? Him? This sounds like armchair booking at its darkest moment.
Rey- Nothing says "talent" like getting a push over your best friend's dead body.
Cena- Nothing can be said that hasn't already been said.
Jeff Hardy- All he did was push merch, make teenagers scream, and the only thing that made him worth a damn was his chemistry with CM Punk.


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