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Supreme Olajuwon 02-05-2010 08:03 AM

Better Wrestler #129
 

3 days.

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option><option>#115. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Ron Simmons (33-25)</option><option>#116. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Juventud Guerrera (28-19)</option><option>#117. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. The Big Show (25-39)</option><option>#118. The Big Show vs. Sid (50-10)</option><option>#119. The Big Show vs. Lance Storm (18-48)</option><option>#120. Lance Storm vs. Meng (65-7)</option><option>#121. Lance Storm vs. John Cena (53-18)</option><option>#122. Lance Storm vs. Sting (23-50)</option><option>#123. Sting vs. The Ultimate Warrior (57-18)</option><option>#124. Sting vs. Dusty Rhodes (50-24)</option><option>#125. Sting vs. CM Punk (41-32)</option><option>#126. Sting vs. Randy Savage (27-50)</option><option>#127. Randy Savage vs. Jim Duggan (65-7)</option><option>#128. Randy Savage vs. AJ Styles (64-13)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>Shawn Michaels</option><option>The Undertaker</option></select>

Nicky Fives 02-05-2010 08:18 AM

I am a fan of both.... but Savage had way more impact on the wrestling business than Booker...... Savage FTW

The Jayman 02-05-2010 08:21 AM

I agree with Mr. Fives on this one.

Theo Dious 02-05-2010 08:34 AM

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Booker T has never been responsible for anything like THIS.

Ermaximus 02-05-2010 08:50 AM

I'm going to have to go with G.I. Bro errrr King Book... er I mean Booker T this time. He's honestly part of the reason I watched WCW. Granted WWE used him poorly, but that was to be expected seeing as that's their game. Anyways, I'm voting Booker T to keep it interesting. Now can you dig THAT?

*wait for it*

SPOILER: show
SUCKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

KIRA 02-05-2010 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 2926518)
I am a fan of both.... but Savage had way more impact on the wrestling business than Booker...... Savage FTW


this:y:

Nark Order 02-05-2010 09:04 AM

Both men are ridiculously charismatic and are about as athletic as they come but Booker never drew close to what Savage did. Booker also had great promos but Savage is one of the greatest promo men in the history of the world. Not to mention that Savage just had an overall bigger influence on professional wrestling as a whole. Valiant effort by Bookman but Savage takes this for me.

Nark Order 02-05-2010 09:10 AM

lol. And Tedious... Your logic on these things is a bit "completely fucking ridiculous."

Benoit was close to beating HBK on here and he murdered his family. Certainly a horrible rap album can be forgiven if we're in the business of handing out "It's ok"s to a cold blooded killing machine, no?

BillyBonez 02-05-2010 10:00 AM

Its prolly cause I havent been watching as long as u guys, but my experience with Randy Savage was watching him as this boring guy in WCW and then as a failed raper.

I mean, I watched some of his old stuff in WWE through old tapes and DVDs but he simply didn't entertain me nearly as much as Booker T did in all his years that I watched him. Booker T was great in WcW. He was cool in WWE when he first came in. He was hilarious as King Bookah and now he was pretty good in TNA too. But I was disappoint that he didnt make it to the Rumble but whatever, I think we will see Boker again.

Now maybe, maybe its because I did not grow up to watch Macho Man in context of when he wrestled at his best, but this is why I cant pick Macho over the Book Man!

Now you can DIG THAT, SUCKAAAAAAAAAS! lol!v

EDWARD 02-05-2010 10:30 AM

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The Franchise 02-05-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2926529)
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Booker T has never been responsible for anything like THIS.

rofl

but Savage is clearly superior as a wrestler so I chose MACHO "BE A MAN" Randy Savage

Gertner 02-05-2010 10:51 AM

Savage v Steamboat WM3. Nuff said.

The Franchise 02-05-2010 10:58 AM

Yeah the Steamboat match was something else. Still holds up today
Also the one with Warrior at WM 7 was crazy good and of course WM 8 vs Flair

Savage was Mr Wrestlemania before HBK came along

Jordan 02-05-2010 02:05 PM

Thats a great pair to look at. Who is better? Really really tough. Savage was pretty good all his run, either in WWE or WCW... And was smart enough to drop out when he should have. Booker T was one of the best athletes in pro wrestling, and pretty innovative. I think Savage takes it be default however just because he was involved in some huge matches at the beginning of the era of sports entertainment, and has a bigger chapter in the history of pro wreslting.

Joesgonnakillyou 02-05-2010 02:29 PM

Savage all the way. Booker T is no slouch but come on, it's no contest.

Lock Jaw 02-05-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joesgonnakillyou (Post 2926773)
Savage all the way. Booker T is no slouch but come on, it's no contest.


sa 02-05-2010 03:06 PM

macho man sucks

Ermaximus 02-05-2010 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa (Post 2926788)
macho man sucks

Yea...you're just asking to get flammed making comments like that.

thedamndest 02-05-2010 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2926560)
lol. And Tedious... Your logic on these things is a bit "completely fucking ridiculous."

Benoit was close to beating HBK on here and he murdered his family. Certainly a horrible rap album can be forgiven if we're in the business of handing out "It's ok"s to a cold blooded killing machine, no?

Austin is in here and he is a wife-beater.

jskinnyg 02-05-2010 04:45 PM

For history... Macho Man... For Titles won and for me... King Booka T!

Tazz Dan 02-05-2010 10:18 PM

Savage. I never really cared about Booker T until his main event push that caught my interest in WCW. Didn't give 2 shits about him in WWE.

Stealth-Icon 02-05-2010 10:25 PM

"Hot Diggity Damn!" Best Line Ever to the winner The Macho Man.

I have liked Booker T on and off, but hate Carmelle enough to keep the sucka down.

sa 02-05-2010 10:39 PM

LOL Sharmelle is annoying, Her voice 2.

Supreme Olajuwon 02-05-2010 10:40 PM

racist

Stealth-Icon 02-05-2010 11:31 PM

To me it doesn't matter what race she is. I just find her so annoying. I also feel the same way about Vickie G and Jillian.

Emperor Smeat 02-06-2010 12:22 AM

Going with Macho Man. Booker T was good to great in the mid to late WCW era while WWE made a huge mistake not pushing him over Triple H in Wrestlemania 19. Booker T ended up loosing all the momentum built up from his WCW days and early Invasion days and really didn't get it back until the King Booker phase of his career.

Both wrestlers were charismatic and had good wrestling ability but Savage had the better career in the long term than Booker T had. WCW was smart though to pick him as their champion when the company was in a mess since the crowd was behind him even if the company itself didn't last long enough to benefit from it.

Road Warrior 02-06-2010 07:09 AM

Savage, easy, he's one of the top five guys ever. Nobody worked a crowd like Savage. If your going to be a heel in WWE they should make you watch Savage's debut against Rick Mcgraw.

Joesgonnakillyou 02-06-2010 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 2927311)
WWE made a huge mistake not pushing him over Triple H in Wrestlemania 19.

IMO, One of the worst things WWE ever did. Especially because of the racial nature of the feud. They even had HHH go over clean!

Loose Cannon 02-06-2010 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 2926518)
I am a fan of both.... but Savage had way more impact on the wrestling business than Booker...... Savage FTW

I like this guys way of thinking

Nark Order 02-06-2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Road Warrior (Post 2927584)
Savage, easy, he's one of the top five guys ever. Nobody worked a crowd like Savage. If your going to be a heel in WWE they should make you watch Savage's debut against Rick Mcgraw.

This guy knows his stuff. Yeah, I mentioned his debut with McGraw in Round 1 for Savage. It was pretty amazing to watch him work those fans that had never seen him before into an absolute frenzy. Posted the video as well.

Testicle 02-06-2010 02:09 PM

Savage dispite the incredible awesomness of the Booker T picture.

Nark Order 02-06-2010 02:54 PM

Btw, I refused to act surprised when the final match-up is Savage/Hennig. Feel like Supreme is going to do a "Haha, I'm clever. I'm doing the same match-up and everyone is going to flip" type thing.

Brigstocke 02-06-2010 06:36 PM

Nostalgia wins the day for me.

Randy Savage is one of the all time greats of the business. Sure he had his problems backstage from time to time, but the man is an absolute legend.

My only wish for him would be that he had bowed out earlier. There are a lot of fans who (as one of the posters above said) just remember his stint in WCW. Which for his standard was lacklustre.

I have many outstanding memories of Macho Man matches and promo's.

Thinking about it now I cannot think of a single time when I was engaged by or enjoyed anything Booker T has ever done. I don't find him to be talented and have personally hated all of his gimmicks and that spinaroonie nonsense he used to pull was absolutely pathetic. Plus Sharmelle is the most pointless person to ever appear on television.

Loose Cannon 02-06-2010 06:58 PM

I actually enjoyed his 1996-1998 WCW stint. The whole lunatic character was pretty awesome.

Zeeboe 02-06-2010 08:42 PM

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Supreme Olajuwon 02-07-2010 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2927927)
Btw, I refused to act surprised when the final match-up is Savage/Hennig. Feel like Supreme is going to do a "Haha, I'm clever. I'm doing the same match-up and everyone is going to flip" type thing.

nah gonna rig it so Savage loses and then watch when you flip

way more entertaining that way

Rammsteinmad 02-07-2010 09:11 AM

Booker T probably ranks in my top five wrestlers of all time. So Booker T.

Theo Dious 02-07-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2926560)
Benoit was close to beating HBK on here and he murdered his family. Certainly a horrible rap album can be forgiven if we're in the business of handing out "It's ok"s to a cold blooded killing machine, no?

I didn't vote for Benoit either, therefore my unwillingness to forgive a bad rap album is consistent with my unwillingness to forgive double-murder-suicide.

The Gold Standard 02-07-2010 07:57 PM

I voted for Savage. I have always liked him more.

screech 02-07-2010 07:58 PM

Sharmell (haha she has a name like toilet paper) pretty much ruined Booker T for me.


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