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Heros Welcome 02-06-2010 05:44 PM

NXT Roster
 
I figured this could spark a good discussion, and instead of harping on the name of the show itself, lets dive a little deeper.

With ECW coming to an end, how do you see the NXT Roster shaping up? Do you think its going to just be the same exact show as ECW but with 3 different letters? Or do you expect this to really be a pure breeding ground for young talent from FCW?

The way I'd like to see it is to have young talent from FCW come in, as well as bring in the youth that can really use the time on the brand to reconnect with the audience and further develop character, names like Evan Bourne and Jack Swagger since they are just dying on the red brand. Maybe even the Hart Dynasty, even though I would rather see them go to RAW and be utilized with Bret. All while keeping a few of ECW talents they have now like, Croft, Baretta, Tatsu, and Ryder.

Then you also introduce names to the fans like Danielson, Low Ki, Justin Angel, Brett Dibiase and Joe Henning. You bring in these names, maybe work a tournament for a NXT Champion, since I would expect Christian to leave since hes the present, take the ECW title to Smackdown and would love if he worked an angle with Edge post Mania where it would be a unification type match between both titles.

NXT Roster
Jack Swagger
Evan Bourne
Zack Ryder
Caylen Croft
Trent Baretta
Yoshi Tatsu
Bryan Danielson
Low Ki
Justin Angel
Joe Henning
Brett Dibiase

Keep the same announce team, as well as Tiffany as GM, or maybe even make Abraham the GM.

Whats everyone else think?

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2010 05:52 PM

I think Jack Swagger would benefit more from a move to Smackdown than to NXT.

Heros Welcome 02-06-2010 05:55 PM

I wouldn't mind a move to SD for Jack at all. When I thought of him as a name for NXT I pictured it as him feeling as though he let himself down by not fulfilling his unbeaten streak promise and that people think that he is nothing but a joke so he goes to NXT to prove that he is the next coming of a great superstar then moves back to either RAW or SD and becomes a more prominent factor in the Main Event scene.

Loose Cannon 02-06-2010 05:57 PM

I think a 3rd brand is stupid to begin with, but I understand that it gives guys that get lost in the shuffle a home and hopefully a decent paycheck. I never watched ECW though because it just felt like Shotgun Saturday Night/Sunday Night Hear/WCW Saturday Night to me.

Jordan 02-06-2010 06:03 PM

I agree with the main post 100%

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2010 06:14 PM

Shotgun Saturday Night, Sunday Night Heat, and WCW Saturday Night were all great shows.

Loose Cannon 02-06-2010 06:19 PM

:nono:

they're all just there for filler and like I said, to give the guys that have nothing to do, a job. they bring in that extra revenue for the company, but are hardly shows that are put in place to advance any major storylines. That's why I never watched. I wasn't missing anything if I didn't watch. But in saying that, it's not like one has to keep up with Raw every week in hopes of not missing anything.

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2010 06:21 PM

I keep forgetting that you don't like actual WRESTLING. My bad.

Xero 02-06-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 2928068)
:nono:

they're all just there for filler and like I said, to give the guys that have nothing to do, a job. they bring in that extra revenue for the company, but are hardly shows that are put in place to advance any major storylines. That's why I never watched. I wasn't missing anything if I didn't watch. But in saying that, it's not like one has to keep up with Raw every week in hopes of not missing anything.

Well, it's also there to expose new talent to the mass audience without throwing them right onto the main show. With a roster the size of WWE's, this can be crucial.

It also allows upcoming talents to build up a history within the company. Morrison and Punk are perfect examples of this. Them being ECW champions gave them more credibility when they moved up than they would have had otherwise.

HeartBreakMan2k 02-06-2010 06:27 PM

Shotgun Saturday Night was awesome.

Loose Cannon 02-06-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2928069)
I keep forgetting that you don't like actual WRESTLING. My bad.

sure I do, just not the 25 minute high flying/technical matches most people on here do. come on, I grew up on WWF Superstars and Wrestling Challenge

also, one reason I loved the attitude era

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2010 06:31 PM

Remember when Marlena flashed The Sultan? How about when The Undertaker tombstoned Triple H as the top of an escalator, and the unconcious Triple H rode it all the way to the bottom?

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2010 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 2928075)
sure I do, just not the 25 minute high flying/technical matches most people on here do. come on, I grew up on WWF Superstars and Wrestling Challenge

also, one reason I loved the attitude era

Did you ever see John Morrison vs. Evan Bourne on ECW last year?

Loose Cannon 02-06-2010 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2928070)
Well, it's also there to expose new talent to the mass audience without throwing them right onto the main show. With a roster the size of WWE's, this can be crucial.

It also allows upcoming talents to build up a history within the company. Morrison and Punk are perfect examples of this. Them being ECW champions gave them more credibility when they moved up than they would have had otherwise.

true, can't argue that. but I can say for every CM Punk and John Morrison, there's a Elijah Burke and DJ Gabriel

Loose Cannon 02-06-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2928077)
Did you ever see John Morrison vs. Evan Bourne on ECW last year?

no, but I promise you it would bore me. Was the ECW Title on the line at least? If not, then it would definately bore me. From day one of me watching wrestling, I've just never been into watching these long wrestling matches without any kind of story/gimmick/feud behind it.

I'm all for Bret/HBK WM 12, but that's because we're talking to top two wrestlers in the WWF at the time and it was for the Title.

But give me a 25 miniute match of the 3rd rate show between two mid card guys and I'm turning it off in a second.

I don't want to ruin the thread with my wrestling likes though, so that's all I'll say on that

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2010 06:52 PM

Sucks to be you.

Evil Vito 02-06-2010 06:54 PM

<font color=goldenrod>They seem to be hyping NXT to be all new guys.....so in some ways I feel that if anybody from ECW remains on NXT, that might be pretty much declaring them "not ready" to go to Raw or SD.

So instead, I think all of the ECW guys will be bumped to the main roster, divided equally. Some guys from Raw, SD, and ECW will be cut in the process (main roster cuts have been rumored for some time now but only Eric Escobar has gotten future endeavored to this point, gotta think more are coming).

Then, NXT will essentially be FCW. Hell, maybe for NXT tapings they'll use the same venue FCW is taped in. Basically, it gets the standard TV audience "used" to these guys, because most people don't watch FCW.

And every year, maybe Raw and SD each get to draft some guys from NXT...actually functioning like a legit draft. Since NXT will only be running for about a month before the draft likely happens, I'd say probably only do one draft pick each show for guys who immediately impress (Bryan Danielson and Kaval, I'm looking at YOU!)</font>

Xero 02-06-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 2928080)
true, can't argue that. but I can say for every CM Punk and John Morrison, there's a Elijah Burke and DJ Gabriel

Would you rather those guys come right onto RAW or SD and be featured in a higher profile than they should be?

Loose Cannon 02-06-2010 07:07 PM

I'll say this, if WWE gave them a month's worth of vigenntes (sp) and then brought them in, they yes, I'd say throw them on Raw/Smackdown.

But the problem is that's a rarity these days and I wish it wasn't because that's the easiest way to get the new guys over with the crowd imo. or at least it makes the crowd understand what the wrestler is about before he debuts.

Now, take the vignettes out of the picture. I liked how the WWE threw John Cena in. I think he had a match with Jericho, right? That's another way to get the new guy exposure. Throw him in with an establishes star to get the rub.

But if the WWE is just going to throw the wrestler to the wolves without any sort of steam behind him, then yea, a show like NXT would be best for him.

Xero 02-06-2010 07:12 PM

But when they come in on the main shows they'd get lost in the shuffle. On a show like NXT that doesn't happen as badly because it's not dominated by the main event.

Loose Cannon 02-06-2010 07:17 PM

and that's golden question: would you rather be a small fish in a big pond or a big fish in a small pond.

it's really all about the push you're going to get. If you're going to come in with some kind of a rub (Dibiase, Rhodes) you can come in on the bigger show. If you're coming in without any push/ rub, you're probably going to flop on Raw

St. Jimmy 02-06-2010 07:18 PM

What the hell are you people talking about?

Xero 02-06-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 2928120)
and that's golden question: would you rather be a small fish in a big pond or a big fish in a small pond.

it's really all about the push you're going to get. If you're going to come in with some kind of a rub (Dibiase, Rhodes) you can come in on the bigger show. If you're coming in without any push/ rub, you're probably going to flop on Raw

And without a show like ECW (NXT) some talents who NEVER would have gotten a chance get a chance to shine and possibly make it to the next level.

I'm not saying a whole BRAND is necessary, but shows like this with the size of WWE's roster really are.

That said, SuperStars could easily fill this void.

Loose Cannon 02-06-2010 07:25 PM

yea, that's what I've been saying. just look at my first post in this thread. If you like watching the up and comers, it's the show for you.

Xero 02-06-2010 07:26 PM

Fair enough.

St. Jimmy 02-06-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 2928121)
What the hell are you people talking about?


Xero 02-06-2010 07:28 PM

The ECW brand is being folded and NXT (standing for "Next Generation") is going up in its place.

thedamndest 02-06-2010 07:29 PM

Changing the name itself doesn't make sense to me. They have an established brand in ECW. Why go to something else that is a complete unknown? They could bring guys from FCW on to ECW and they could stop putting the ECW title on PPV. That sounds like what could happen and I doubt the NXT name will outdraw the ECW name.

St. Jimmy 02-06-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2928136)
The ECW brand is being folded and NXT (standing for "Next Generation") is going up in its place.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/3...dbf1ef3e92.jpg

Juan 02-06-2010 07:33 PM

ok Jimmy, we get it.

St. Jimmy 02-06-2010 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2928144)
ok Jimmy, we get it.

tl;dr.

Xero 02-06-2010 07:39 PM

ok jmy we gtit

thedamndest 02-06-2010 07:42 PM

Sometimes I get the feeling St. Jimmy is nearly illiterate.

St. Jimmy 02-06-2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2928160)
Sometimes I get the feeling St. Jimmy is nearly illiterate.

Just nearly.

VSG 02-06-2010 08:43 PM

As long as it doesnt get turned into a sci-fi/reality show!

Btw who here will definitely tune into the last episode of ECW, if only for sentiments, but hoping Vinnie Mac lets its go out with a bang?

Xero 02-06-2010 08:45 PM

I almost see a sort of "NXT Invasion" with a bunch of FCW guys coming up and taking over.

Jordan 02-06-2010 09:01 PM

Well if any of you have watched FCW's TV show online or wherever, if that was basically what NXT is, then hell yes!

I think that the main NXT guys should be Bryan Danielson, Kaval, Yoshi Tatsu, Justin Angle, and Joe Henning. I would watch every episode.

Nicky Fives 02-06-2010 09:25 PM

Nothing will change until the draft after Wrestlemania..... they might then send some of the younger guys and older guys (mostly to job) from Raw & Smackdown (Jack Swagger, Evan Bourne, etc.) to NXT

screech 02-06-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 2928054)
I agree with the main post 100%

:y:

screech 02-06-2010 10:23 PM

I like the idea of having veterans on the show along with new talent no one really knows.

One, people are more likely to tune in if they know at least a few people on the show. And two, it will give the new talent a chance to learn from the older guys.


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