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Supreme Olajuwon 02-08-2010 02:46 PM

Better Wrestler #130 *Hall of Fame Round*
 

3 days.

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option><option>#115. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Ron Simmons (33-25)</option><option>#116. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Juventud Guerrera (28-19)</option><option>#117. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. The Big Show (25-39)</option><option>#118. The Big Show vs. Sid (50-10)</option><option>#119. The Big Show vs. Lance Storm (18-48)</option><option>#120. Lance Storm vs. Meng (65-7)</option><option>#121. Lance Storm vs. John Cena (53-18)</option><option>#122. Lance Storm vs. Sting (23-50)</option><option>#123. Sting vs. The Ultimate Warrior (57-18)</option><option>#124. Sting vs. Dusty Rhodes (50-24)</option><option>#125. Sting vs. CM Punk (41-32)</option><option>#126. Sting vs. Randy Savage (27-50)</option><option>#127. Randy Savage vs. Jim Duggan (65-7)</option><option>#128. Randy Savage vs. AJ Styles (64-13)</option><option>#129. Randy Savage vs. Booker T (61-16)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>Shawn Michaels</option><option>The Undertaker</option></select>

The Jayman 02-08-2010 02:53 PM

this one was kinda hard. I voted for Piper b/c his Piper's Pit segments were memorable. Piper just had the wild personallity and you never knew what to expect from him. Even to this day he is so fun to watch in the ring. I never got into his matches but man when he grabbed a mic....

Skippord 02-08-2010 02:53 PM

Piper

I don't know why I just don't really like Savage

Ermaximus 02-08-2010 03:01 PM

Supreme, where good sir did you get that pic of Piper? It's amazing!

Supreme Olajuwon 02-08-2010 03:22 PM

google.com

sa 02-08-2010 04:17 PM

macho owns this round

The Gold Standard 02-08-2010 04:43 PM

I was always a fan of Savage. I have not always a fan of Piper.

Loose Cannon 02-08-2010 04:46 PM

wow, tough one. gonna have to do some thinking

fanatic7707 02-08-2010 04:52 PM

Talk about tough choice. Piper was and will be considered one of the biggest livewires in the biz being he's controversial. Savage on the other hand got a lot of hype being he knew how to get the crowd going

Rammsteinmad 02-08-2010 05:28 PM

Piper.

Not really such a huge fan of either, but I remember more of Piper than I do Savage.

Nicky Fives 02-08-2010 06:03 PM

Savage. Not a huge fan of Piper's in-ring work......

TheFallenOneX 02-08-2010 06:29 PM

I am haveing flashbacks to WWF Rock and Wrestling cartoon show

Nark Order 02-08-2010 06:39 PM

Both men were extraordinary and are two Hall of Famers for sure but this is an easy decision for me still. Nod goes to Savage. Both guys were two of the greatest mic men ever and were solid in the ring. Piper was good at basically everything a prowrestler could be good at but Savage was EXCELLENT at everything a prowrestler could be at. You can watch old Macho videos and just see that he was in a league of his own. Randy was a known perfectionist and it showed constantly.

Hopefully Savage will earn his rightful place in the TPWW Hall of Fame.

Strike Force 02-08-2010 06:56 PM

I gotta go savage. Great talker, great ring tech. Ive always thought piper was overrated IMO but he was a very good catalyst to hogan back in the day.

Zen v.W.o. 02-08-2010 07:44 PM

There's nobody more badass than Piper.

Piper was huge. Biggest heel of all time and greatest talker, imo. The fact he could then become so loved afterwards speaks volumes about the way he can control a crowd.

Savage was a good wrestler but nothing really grabbed me about him.

Stealth-Icon 02-08-2010 08:08 PM

Macho Madness to the HOF. I really dislike seeing Piper.

Arashi Kage 02-08-2010 09:00 PM

Piper is awesome!!! But the Macho Man manages to be a step above awesome. Send Savage to the HoF, he's been close in the past.

Here's the two of them.

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Nark Order 02-08-2010 09:08 PM

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Nark Order 02-08-2010 09:09 PM

FREQUENT FLYER.... YEAHHH!!

Nark Order 02-08-2010 09:12 PM

CUP OF COFFEE IN THE BIG TIME, YEAH!!!!!

Poit 02-08-2010 09:19 PM

I gotta go with Piper.

Loose Cannon 02-08-2010 09:50 PM

Alright, gonna break it down by the Rule of 5

Mic Work:

Savage was a great talker and controlled every single interview he did. I could watch a hundred Savage promos and never get bored because he'll say something different every time. But Piper had the freakin Piper's Pit and just may be the greatest talker in wreslting history.

Edge: Piper


In Ring Work

Now Savage was a much better wrestler then Piper in terms of his arsenal and how he moved around the ring. That doesn't mean Piper didn't know how to work a match. Especially in his mid 80's heel run, he controlled every single match as soon as he stepped through the curtain. He could work all styles, but so could Savage.

Edge: Savage


Longevity: Both guys kind of went down the same path. Started off in the territories, went the WWF, came back to WWF and then went to WCW. But Savage worked on top for much longer then Piper did. Piper seemed to come and go quickly after his 80's run died down. He worked a few main events in WCW later on, but they were nothing memorble.

Edge: Savage


Charisma: You could not argue both guys didn't have a shit load of charisma. I really don't know how to call this one cause you have maybe two of the top five charasmatic guys of all-time. They carried thier charisma and characters both in and out of the ring. They both really lived thier on screen characters. way to close to call

Egde: Tie


Drawing Power: Both guys drew big time. Piper was the main heel during the big boom of the WWF in the 80's. But again, Savage had more drawing power over time. This hurts Piper here

Edge: Savage



So Savage beats out Piper, but more so because of the entire picture. Piper will go down as one of the greatest ever, but he just didn't do it as long as Savage did.

Zen v.W.o. 02-08-2010 10:44 PM

Piper was a much bigger draw then savage.

Nark Order 02-08-2010 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. (Post 2930654)
Piper was a much bigger draw then savage.

In what lifetime?

The Franchise 02-08-2010 11:21 PM

This is a tough one. Both are absolute legends but I think Savage gets the edge and well deserved hall of fame spot

Road Warrior 02-08-2010 11:24 PM

Savage gets my vote. Gotta agree with narcissus, Piper was good at everything while Savage was great at everything, and personally he's in my top 5 all time so he gets my vote here.

Nark Order 02-08-2010 11:24 PM

Think Savage is going to be the first "golden era" wrestler to go into the Hall of Fame.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2010 12:36 AM

:lol: Piper's picture.

Tough choice to make since both wrestlers were good in both WWF and WCW. Piper was involved in the 1st main event of Wrestlemania and helped make it become a event changer in the history of modern wrestling while Savage had good promo and charisma abilities where he could make any feud much better than on paper.

Going with Piper but wouldn't be upset if Macho Man won or Piper lost or vice versa since both were good wrestlers of the 1980s and early to mid-1990s.

Nark Order 02-09-2010 12:47 AM

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Lock Jaw 02-09-2010 01:47 AM

Was having a tough time with this one, but Loose Cannon breaking it all down helped me out.

Savage gets my vote.

Supreme Olajuwon 02-09-2010 09:25 AM

Love Piper. Great wrestler, even greater character. I agree with LC that he might be the best on the mic of all time.

But Savage, I just love Savage so much. He was the first wrestler I really became a fan of when I started watching and he's still in my top 5 today. Gotta go with Savage.

The Mackem 02-09-2010 11:28 AM

Piper over Savage for me

St. Jimmy 02-09-2010 04:55 PM

Easy choice, Piper couldn't go - Savage could.

Zen v.W.o. 02-09-2010 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2930670)
In what lifetime?

Um, this one.

Joesgonnakillyou 02-09-2010 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. (Post 2931923)
Um, this one.

No dice man, sorry. I really thin your entering a losing battle if your gonna argue Piper drew more.

Savage all the way for me. I can't think of anyone I'd vote over Savage. There's literally no-one.

Loose Cannon 02-09-2010 08:06 PM

again, Piper easily outdrew Savage and probably everyone on the WWF roster in the mid 80's minus Hogan. But it's overtime that Savage gets him

Xero 02-09-2010 08:12 PM

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Stealth-Icon 02-09-2010 11:13 PM

Awesome. Ohhhh Yeeeaahhh

Testicle 02-10-2010 12:33 AM

OH WOW, MISTER SARCASM...YEEEAAAHH!

Savage was always a favorite of mine, gotta go with him.

Ruien 02-10-2010 03:55 PM

The only wrestling dvd I have ever bought was the Macho Man dvd. Never even thought twice about a other dvd to own, that is how special he is.


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