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Old 09-17-2005, 05:05 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
Not, it hasn't. It's made the Red Sox and Yankees just think that they aren't spending enough yet. Until those teams (teams like them) have no success for several years, they'll continue ruining baseball for the majority of teams.
OK, so let's say large payrolls = winning.

Now let's take 2000-2005. I'll list the top 8 payrolls every year

2000

New York Yankees
Los Angeles Dodgers
Baltimore Orioles
Atlanta Braves
Boston Red Sox
New York Mets
Arizona Diamondbacks
Cleveland Indians

Yankees, Mets, Cardinals, Braves, Giants, M'S, A's, Chi Sox made playoffs

Yankees won World Series

2001

New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Los Angeles Dodgers
New York Mets
Cleveland Indians
Atlanta Braves
Texas Rangers
Arizona Diamondbacks

D-Backs, Braves, Astros, Cardinals, M's, Yankees, Indians, A's

D-backs won World Series.

2002

New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Texas Rangers
Arizona Diamondbacks
Los Angeles Dodgers
New York Mets
Atlanta Braves
Seattle Mariners


Yanks, D-Backs, Angels, Cardinals, Giants, Braves, Twins, A's made playoffs

Angles won the World Series (15th in payroll)

2003

New York Yankees
New York Mets
Atlanta Braves
Los Angeles Dodgers
Texas Rangers
Boston Red Sox
Seattle Mariners
St. Louis Cardinals

Yankees, Braves, Red Sox, Marlins, A's, Twins, Cubs, Giants made playoffs

Florida won World Series (25th in payroll)

2004

New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Los Angeles Angels
New York Mets
Philadelphia Phillies
Los Angeles Dodgers
Chicago Cubs
Atlanta Braves

Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, Twins, Cardinals, Houston, Braves, Dodgers.

Red Sox won World Series

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See, your theory holds up in some aspects over the last couple of years, but not fully. There are teams that don't spend ("don't" not "can't") and they still get in the playoffs.

Now what about the teams that are in the top 8 all the time and never win. What do you think about them?

What about the teams who are always in there (A's for example) and are at the bottom in payroll? The A's had so many chances and they blew it big time a couple times

And what about those owners that have the money and are some of the richest people in the world and don't spend the money to win? Should we fault George or John Henry for spending thier money?

And I know the Yankees have the most revenue, but should we fault the Yankee fans for selling out the stadium all the time and playing a huge part in that revenue? The Twins fans don't seem to give a dam about their team, even when they are winning... and thus no revenue. Carl Pohland (Twins owner) is one of the richest men in the world according to forbes, btw, and yet his teams payroll is always at the bottom somewhere.

Davis Glass (Royals Owner) is another one on the list and yet the Royals are basement dwellers most years. And you wonder why thier fans don't care about them.

When the Yankees were shit in the early 90's, how do you think they were able to go on a spending spree starting in '96? Because people still came to see them.

And I think that's the biggest problem with baseball and any sport really. It's those extraneous variables that we can't control. You can't control who goes to the ballgames. If the city is not interested in the team, well there goes most of the revenue. You can't control where the better markets are. But that doesn't mean those smaller markets can never win.

Maybe it's best for baseball to not only approve on a salary cap, but to dump a few teams while they are at it.

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