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Originally Posted by The Miz
VEL seriously this is one of your dumbest, least thought out posts ever. Did you ever think that it's possible that Ortiz could have a few more at-bats than Hafner? Because he has 115 more. If Hafner had 115 more AB's, don't you think he just might have more RBI's? Did you consider any stats other than the 3 listed, all 3 completely useless?
Some other stats
OPS
David Ortiz: 1.012
Travis Hafner: 1.008
OBP
DO: .396
TH: .412
Ortiz has better HR/PA and is a better power hitter. Should we give him the MVP because of that? If their OPS are identical why does it matter? And Ortiz plays in the park that was rated #1 in Park Factor for Hitters last year while Hafner plays in #25.
But more importantly, where would the Indians be without Hafner? Where would the Red Sox be without Ortiz? It's safe to say the Red Sox would be in much better shape Ortiz-less. They would be worse obviously but they still have Damon, Manny, Renteria, etc. Who anchors Cleveland's offense without Hafner? He is their best power threat and only legitamate #4 hitter. Without him, they would not be anywhere near the White Sox or the Wild Card.
Hafner gets my MVP vote before Ortiz.
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Yep, missed looking at the AB's assumed with his name coming up he had played all year. The fact that he didn't does change the numbers but it also changes his qualification for MVP.
Simply, he hasn't been there all season to help his team.
Ortiz does and has put the sox over the top, he Wins games for them all the time, and not the "8-0 garbage time home run".
That being said, as much as I'd lover to give it to Ortiz, I'd still now give the nod to A-rod because of the field play.
So they vote when the season is over, if the AL East comes down to the last 3 games, and A-rod or Ortiz his 1 or 2 game winnng HR's think that will influence people?