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Originally Posted by The Miz
I don't have any problem with picking Ortiz for MVP. He's an excellent candidate. The reason I said it was dumb was because of your reasoning. Your 2 points were:
1. Ortiz has better stats than Hafner.
2. Hafner hasn't been there all year to help his team.
The first one is untrue and the second one is ridiculous. In my mind, A-Rod is the MVP and Ortiz and Hafner are close but I give a slight edge to Hafner. If you think Ortiz is MVP that is fine as long as you back it up with a valid argument.
If you want to pick Bartolo Colon for Cy Young, fine, but if you want to pick Colon because he could beat Johan Santana in a game of chinese checkers, that's stupid.
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I'm the first to admit I didn't know all the info on Hafner, and the way your first preseneted it, it seemed like he missed a lot more then 2 weeks, (115 at bats, would seem to be 20-30 games?).
and my statement I stand by is if a Player misses a big part of the season due to injury, then I can't give them the MVP. Same way I can't put Terrell Davis in the HOF.
Looking at it now, you make a great case for Hafner, I still pick Ortiz, simply because I've seen him more and am more aware of what he means to the team (game winning stuff), I'm sure if I watched more of Hafners games I might feel different, thought I clarafied this already...