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Originally Posted by Excellance of Execution
Vel, to be perfectly clear, I'm not referring to the Pat's from last year, i'm talking about this year's Pat's. Now, what i quoted from you really didn't have anything to do with what i said, it was referring to what you said in the Bruschi thread, i just quoted what you said so you would clearly see that my comment was directed at you. Perhaps i should have just posted that statement in the other thread, but i felt you would see it here better. If so, my bad.
You say, the Pat's are deceimated with injuries, I agree, but what makes this year's team any different than last year's? As i recall last year's team had lot's of injuries, particularly in the secondary, hence why Troy Brown had to play there. With that said, i recall the Pat's winning the SuperBowl. So i have a hard time listening to someone justify injuries as an excuse as to why their team isn't doing good. They did it last year, why not this? Well i can answer that, Crennel and Weiss. Good coaches can make average player's better. Look at the Pat's offensive line for example, a bunch of no-names, but guess what good coaching has done for them. I'm not taking anything away from Belicheck, he is a hell of a coach, but doesn't it seem weird how much the team has fallen from last year?
As for my comment about Buffalo and Indy dominating the Pat's here's some stat's for your viewing pleasure that show the fact's about the game.
The Buffalo game:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20051030017
and the Indy Game:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20051107017
Stat's don't lie |
EOE - had a few questions for you, would like if you addressed them. Especially, how you judge a "great coach" and why you don't feel Belicheck is "one of the best ever" and how his OC/DC were "more important" then the OC/DC of any other "great coach".
As for personel.
Last year, you had Ty Law 1/2 the year, You had Seymore most of the year, You had Ted Johnson, Ted Bruschi all year. Rodney Harrison all year.
The big differences on Defense was Bruschi, still is: Ted Johnson (run stopping), Seymore (run stopping and QB pressure) and Harrison. Harrison is a huge loss. Troy Brown was mostly in dime situations. They have less depth and more injuries this year. Plus on offense. Faulk is out, Pass is hurt, Dillon is playing hurt, Matt Light is out, Andruzzi is gone. Yes, the Pats have always played through injured players, but eventually it catches up.
and yes, the stats don't lie, and according to the stats, against the Bills especially there was no "domination".
Did they have better offensive stats? sure, dominating? no, if they completely dominated the Pats they would have won.
So, now I know what this is really all about, you're a die hard bills fan, and 3 rings in 4 years must kill someone who rooted for a team that went 0-4 in a row.
I know how you feel, I was a Pats fan of a team that lost 2 superbowls, destroyed in one of them (you want to talk Domination, see: Bears over Pats in the superbowl!).
All good things come to an end, injuries, players/coaches move on, a bad personel move etc... just like anyone else, enjoy it while we can.