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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives
EOE - had a few questions for you, would like if you addressed them. Especially, how you judge a "great coach" and why you don't feel Belicheck is "one of the best ever" and how his OC/DC were "more important" then the OC/DC of any other "great coach".
First of all, i think Belicheck is a good coach as stated in one of my other post's. To me a great coach is someone who can go from one team to another and make them a winner. To me, i think Bill Parcell's is one of the greatest coaches ever. He won twice with the Giant's, brought the Pat's from the gutter to the Super Bowl (although the lost), he brought the Jet's from the gutter to the playoff's for the first time in along time, and now he is doing it in Dallas. What did Belicheck do when he was Cleveland's coach? Nothing that i can remember. Sure he has won three Super Bowl's, and sure i think he is a good coach, but i think that it's obvious that the lose of Crennel and Weiss has really hurt the Pat's. I know they have had their fair share of injuries, but so does everyone else. It's the well coached team's that overcome that. The Pat's did it last year when they had Crennel and Weiss, but they aren't doing it this year. Something isn't right there. As for personel.
Last year, you had Ty Law 1/2 the year, You had Seymore most of the year, You had Ted Johnson, Ted Bruschi all year. Rodney Harrison all year.
The big differences on Defense was Bruschi, still is: Ted Johnson (run stopping), Seymore (run stopping and QB pressure) and Harrison. Harrison is a huge loss. Troy Brown was mostly in dime situations. They have less depth and more injuries this year. Plus on offense. Faulk is out, Pass is hurt, Dillon is playing hurt, Matt Light is out, Andruzzi is gone. Yes, the Pats have always played through injured players, but eventually it catches up.
See the above response. I agree the Pat's have been hurt, but well coached team's are able to insert backup's into those spot's and have them do their job. That's why i feel the loss of Weiss and Crennel is a big reason for the Pat's decline. Granted, this year they have lost some bigger names, like Seymore and Harrison, but they also have Wilfork with another year of experiance and they have that guy they signed from Chicago (name slips my mind) who was out last year. He has played pretty well this year, and they have the emotional lift from getting Bruschi back( not counting the fact that he has done pretty well and will only improve with conditioning).
and yes, the stats don't lie, and according to the stats, against the Bills especially there was no "domination".
Did they have better offensive stats? sure, dominating? no, if they completely dominated the Pats they would have won.
To me there are different types of domination. Did Buffalo do to the Pats what the Bears did to them in 85, No. But Buffalo, dominated time of possesion, which means they controlled the line of scrimmage. Buffalo beat the Pat's in every offensive category except for Holcomb threw 1 int and Brady didn't. Buffalo out-passed them, out-rushed them and caused 2 lost fumbles and 3 sacks. To me Buffalo has alot of weaknesses and room to improve. They kicked three fieldgoals and in my eyes they should have atleast scored two touchdowns instead. Do you consider it to be not dominating because the Pat's won? If Buffalo, would have won the game 16-14 what would you think then? Or if, Buffalo scored a couple more touchdown's instead of kicking field goals? To me, the score of the game doesn't alway's reflect how close the game actually was.
So, now I know what this is really all about, you're a die hard bills fan, and 3 rings in 4 years must kill someone who rooted for a team that went 0-4 in a row.
I know how you feel, I was a Pats fan of a team that lost 2 superbowls, destroyed in one of them (you want to talk Domination, see: Bears over Pats in the superbowl!).
All good things come to an end, injuries, players/coaches move on, a bad personel move etc... just like anyone else, enjoy it while we can.
To me it actually has nothing to do with jealousy of the Pat's. To be honest, i don't hate them at all. I dislike the Dolphin's and the Jet's WAAAAYYYY more than the Pat's. I've actually rooted for the Pat's against the Panthers, Eagles and Rams. The main portion of what i've had to say, stem's from things that were said in the Bruschi topic. About how everyone, mostly Espn, was on his c*ck the whole game. To the point, where it took away from the game. I stick to my opinion's, and i respect your's. I just can't stand it when people can't do it to.
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