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Originally Posted by Apocolyptik1
This is more then likely my opinion totally, but whenever I see guys that use Karate/Judo/Martial Arts in the WWE you can gaurantee them to not get very far. Rob is over with the fans obviously but what I mean is more like the WWE staff.
I am going to get serious here and see how many people actually make fun of me. Everyone on Earth knows that wrestling is fake, but I will get back to this later.
I am a huge fan of UFC, and it is a known fact in UFC that if you put a guy that is Martial Arts oriented into the octagon with a guy that is a grappler/dirty boxer, the martial arts guy will loose badly (exception Horace Grace, spelling?).
When I watch WWE, knowing full well that it is fake, I get a sense that Vince tries to make it seem more real then it is. If you pit Kane against Spike Dudley in a real fight, Kane is going to beat the shit out of him. Going with this kind of thinking, I have begun to see why Vince likes these big guys. He just wants it to seem a bit more serious rather then it being off-the-wall lunacy.
Anyone remember back in the WCW days when Rey Mysterio feuded with Nash and Rey always seemed to pull out the victory until their final match?
No one believed that Rey could actually kick Kevin Nash's ass no matter how much faster Rey was, so that angle was god awful.
When I see a wrestler that uses Martial Arts, I think along the same lines. I have wanted to start a thread over Who in the WWE would actually win in a real fight, but havent gotten around to it. I think it would be like the greatest thing in the world to throw SCSA in the octagon with someone like Ken Shamrock/Stever Blackman and actually see if he is such a big ole badass. I think SCSA would get the shit kicked out of him.
Maybe I should start the thread huh?
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I have friends who say they get turned off when they see a guy like Spike go toe to toe with a guy like Kane. They say it makes no sense, and its an insult for them to believe that a guy his size could take out Kane.
Of course at the same time, other people will say size doesn't matter and a small guy can beat a big guy in a real fight. I think that can be true, but its not believable in wrestling. I mean I'm a huge MMA fan, and I recall some of the matches form old UFC days where a small dude would beat a bigger guy. But, usually that was because the big guy was unskilled, and he would get taken down and exposed. If we are to believe that all these WWE wrestlers are trained, then skill is kinda taklen away, and then it become pretty unbelievable that Spike could defeat Kane in a fight.
The deal you brought up about Austin in the UFC is pretty irrelevant. I dont think Austin has ever said he's actually the toughest man in the world. I mean Dennis Haysbert claims to be the President on 24, but I dont think he tries to walk into the White House at night and say "I'm the President, I live here". Its all entertainment.
So yeah, Austin would get killed by virtually anyone in the UFC/Pride/K-1, but is that really a shock to anyone?
The only guys who might have a shot are the ones with amatuer wrestling backgrounds. Angle, Lesnar, Shelton might have a shot because they can take people down. The question is though, do they have any punching power, and more importantly how good is their submission game. Kurt said himself that he would get owned by the kids going in Olympic wrestling, and thats something he's done and done better than anyone else. If he were to try something he's never done (like MMA), I'm sure he would get killed, but he might put up a fight. Same goes for Lesnar and Shelton.
Big Show might have a chance just because he's so big, but its been proven a number of times in just the last months or so that being big means nothing in the world of MMA. Butterbean got rocked in a fight, so did the dude who was fighting Bob Sapp, so that tells me that Show would get killed as well.