[Destor]

Originally Posted by Some Retard Ok buddy, I'll certainly give you in depth explanations, but then I would like YOURS in return, since most of you on this board think you "know" everything. (broken down into sections just for Xero)

I'm Glad you are going to try the formatting of the English language for this post.

Point #1: That Super Dragon match was then, this is now. I did not ask nor bring up PAST events, although I do remember saying within the last two years. XPW has been dead for awhile now. Try watching Dragon's newer stuff.....he has improved tons.

Ok, lets forget their years of garbage. Lets pretend people shouldn't be held accountable for their past actions. Lets pretend people shouldn't have to redeem themselves, and give them a clean slate.

Point #2: Various matches (among the many) that were NOT spot matches and had fine ring psychology

I will only respond to those I have seen. I try not to watch to much garbage.

- Claudio Castagnoli vs. Ruckus @ NOF in Nov. 2005

Garbage, there was no redeeming quality to this match, this IS the definition of a spotfest.

- Chris Hero vs. Eddie Kingston in a Last Man Standing match @ NOF in Nov. 2005

Seriously, this is the match you give to show people CZW isn't garbage?

- Super Dragon vs. El Generico (both matches from Deja Vu 3 in August as well as BOTB 5 back in May 2005)

I saw Deja Vu 3, not horrible considering where it came from. It still garbage, but its borderline.

- JC Bailey vs. Arik Cannon from Deja Vu 3 in Aug. 2005

Spotfest.

- B-Boy vs. "Spyder" Nate Webb at Deja Vu 3 in Aug. 2005

Not a bad spotfest, almost well done. (like I said the card was ok. Great for CZW.)

- Almost all of Best of the Best V in May 2005

I tend to buy all of the best of's just so no one can tell me I'm not up to date with the trash and I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm sure I'll get it; and find it to be garbage spotfest/hardcore like all the rest of 'em. I'll give it a chance though.

Point #3: Why do all of you constantly harp of the "0 psychology" aspect? Do you know what ring psychology is? Last time I checked, there were various books, webpages, etc., all with accurate definitions. I suggest you look them up. Just because a match has 1 or 2 highspots does NOT mean it's a complete clusterfuck or has no psychology about it.

1) Yes I know what psychology is.
2) They do have little/no ring/crowd psychology. You just refuse to see it.
3) just because a match has 1 or to highspots its does not mean it has no psychology about it, you are right there. No one said it did either though.

Point #4: Why make fun of where wrestlers work outside wrestling? For example, bashing Mondo at Blockbuster. Wrestling was a hobby that paid, while Blockbuster helped bring in more cash. Most guys can't survive on just wrestling alone, unless they're in "TEH WWE."

I agree, we were only doing to piss marks off. It seemed to be effective. *See you*

I'm sure most of you: a) haven't gone to college b) don't have a desirable job (such as working at a food store, convenience store, etc) c) have no job at all and sit in front of a computer, masturbating all day long over how much you THINK you know and how cool you are. d) do all of the above, which in that case, you quite honestly NEED to get a fucking life.

1)Graduated with a degree in film studies (bullshit title they give for watching movies, a lot of producers have this.)
2) I cut trees by day ,(pays extreeeeeeemly well, At least 500 per tree. Talk about easy money) and I wrestle by night.
3) Since I am my own boss, I take my laptop to work and post when I think of something, same when I'm at a show, helps the day go by faster.
4)I do need a life.

Point #5: There is no real 'Point #5.' If you didn't get it by now (and by reading past posts), you're obviously to thickheaded of a person to communicate with. No where did I say you should like CZW and no where was I trying to "convert" anyone into liking the product.

You didn't make one good point in all of that. Just stated some bullshit why people should think CZW isn't garbage by siteing a bunch of reasons why it is garbage.

Now that I've wasted precious final studying time, babble on all you want, because there's no changing your minds about anything. I'm not trying to get anyone to like CZW, I'm simply correcting false assumptions people have of the company, just because they were known for doing ultraviolent and hardcore matches, circa 2002 and before. It's now 2005, just in case any of you forgot. I'm done with this board for now, since I've said my piece, so bash and pretend you know about the business, all you want.......

Their assumptions are not false, your assumption that they are not garbage would be false. You don't know a thing about psychology if you debate that (in which case you would also have to a CZW mark.) You like CZW, thats not an issue. Thinking its anything but garbage, and that its 'good' wrestling, thats the problem.