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Old 12-26-2005, 02:46 PM   #27
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I've decided to go Miz on ya'll. Enjoy.
I'm flattered my name is associated with using facts to back up arguments, instead of the BCWWF method, "Nah uh!!!!"

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Johnny Damon: World Series Champion 2004, ALCS 2003
Avg. 316 HR: 10 RBI 75 Runs 117 SB 18
Mark Kotsay: Missed playoffs
Avg. 280 HR: 15 RBI: 82 Runs: 75 SB: 5
Advantage: Damon
I wonder why Johnny Damon, who bats in front of Renteria, Ortiz, and Manny; scored more runs than Kotsay, who hit in front of Chavez, Payton, and Hatteberg.

Theres no doubt Damon is a better offensive player than Kotsay, but I want to know if you would've competed with Boston's mutiyear deal offer after the 2001 he had.

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Jason Giambi: Made the playoffs each year
Avg. 271 HR: 32 RBI: 87 Runs: 74 SB: 0
Scott Hatteberg: Missed playoffs, released?
Avg. 256 HR: 7 RBI: 59 Runs: 52 SB: 0
Nick Swisher: Young, but still missed playoffs
Avg. 236 HR: 21 RBI: 74 Runs: 66 SB: 0
Advantage: Giambi
Swisher was not the 1B, so that's irrelevant. And I already told you Giambi could not be afforded.

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Ramon Hernandez: Made playoffs
Avg. 290 HR: 12 RBI: 58 Runs: 36 SB: 1
Jason Kendall: Missed playoffs 2005
Avg. 271 HR: 0 RBI: 53 Runs: 70 SB: 8
Advantage: Close, but besides runs Hernandez
lol since Hernandez made the playoffs with the 82-80 San Diego Padres I guess that's a notch in his favor eh? Also, Jason Kendall was amazing working with the young staff this year. Blanton, Haren, and Saarloo's ERAs are much higher with Hernandez behind the plate. How can you compare their offensive stats? Kendall hits leadoff, Hernandez was like 6 or 7.

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Miguel Tejada: Missed playoffs
Avg. 304 HR: 26 RBI: 98 Runs: 89 SB: 5
Bobby Crosby: Missed playoffs
Avg. 276 HR: 9 RBI: 38 Runs: 66 SB: 0
Advantage: Tejada
This is irrelevant because Tejada made no negotiations with the A's and had absolutely no intentions of coming back. I can assure you that Crosby would've touched home plate in the 2003 ALDS, and wouldn't have made an error on every routine play.

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Jermaine Dye: World Series Champion
Avg. 274 HR: 31 RBI: 86 Runs: 74 SB: 11
Jay Payton: Bitched, traded to A's, missed playoffs
Avg. 267 HR: 18 RBI: 63 Runs: 62 SB: 0 (to be fair, included whole season)
Advantage: Dye
Payton replaced Byrnes, not Dye. You don't read very well so I'll repeat myself:

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Why the hell would they want Dye back? They were paying him $11 million to K 128 times, have an OBP of .329 (awful for a corner OF), and hit into a double play in every clutch situation possible. Dye was supposed to be their cleanup hitter and he was fucking terrible. They lost the division by one game that year, I can't tell you how many lost games featured their #4 hitter K'ing 2 or 3 times. And look at his replacement, who made the league minimum.

Jermaine Dye 2004: 137 G, .272/.334/.469 (.793), 23 HR, 80 RBI, 128 K
Nick Swisher 2005: 131 G, .238/.325/.443 (.768), 21 HR, 74 RBI, 110 K

Real drop-off in production there. Dye made over 10 million dollars more than Swisher and barely edged his numbers. Swisher put up all of his stats in the 7 or 8 hole all year, Dye put up his at 4 or 5. Also, Swisher is 24 and a rookie. Dye is 31. Who would you rather have for the next 5 years VEL, Jermaine Dye for $55 million or Swisher for $1.5 million?

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So there's probably the five biggest offensive losses and their replacements. Besides Tejada, the other four were all on playoff teams and all had better stats than their replacements in Oakland.

They had the pitching to spare, but the offense is lacking. Losing all-stars and winning players doesn't help that. BUT WAIT! They have potential! Just give them a year or two to gel and they will be a sure World Series contender! Or even better, if we let them develop into stars then the Yankees can sign them in free agency and we can start all over

I love potential!
I haven't said the word potential one time in this thread, good impression though. I do, however, think this team is in much better position to win in 06 than Boston and New York.
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