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Originally Posted by Vermaat Just because it worked for one guy doesn't mean it will work for another. Yes losing can make a guy into a big face like with Stone Cold, however, it can also make a guy not hold his ground as a face. It depends on their characters and it fit Stone Cold but doesn't fit Cena or Goldberg (no wonder WWE ruined him and he wasnm't as over).

Are you that stupid? Don't you see that I can turn your own logic against you? Just because it worked for Goldberg doesn't mean it would work for Cena. And the cold hard fact is that it didn't. You seem to ignore the fact that Cena held the Title for a LOOOONNNGGG time before losing to Edge. This is why people got sick of him, because he was booked as to "cartoonish and Superman like." Ironically, if WWE were to listen to your "theory" and "logic", your precious Cena would get even more boo's than he is now. You single handedly are trying to fuck your own hero. Keep up the good work!

Originally Posted by Vermaat Yes now they are doing it automatically because they are used to doing it as a cool thing and because they watched it from home.

LOL!!!!! This might be the dumbest thing you've said on this thread. (And that's saying ALOT.) If you really believe this then you are fucking hopeless. So, according to your theory....pretty much everyone in attendance in Detroit at SNME is not a "REAL WRESTLING" fan? Because the response when Cena's face smacked the canvas was deafening. Even worse, the "sheep" are actually Cena fans....but have watched what "cool" people are doing from home...and decide to boo their favorite wrestler to seem cool. Your theory is fucked up on so many levels it's hilarious. Do you remember RAW a couple weeks ago? He actually didn't get boo'd that much, if at all. Those people in the crowd obviously watch the same "bad apples" at home as everyone else....yet, they didn't conform to your theory. The fact is that in every town, the boo's are at a different level each time....you know why? Because in each town, individual people with individual taste's pay their hard earned money to watch RAW and they boo who they want to boo and they cheer who they want to cheer. Each town has a different amount of people that don't like Cena. That's the explanation. There is no conspiracy theory against Cena as you suggest. Individuals that don't like him, express their individual opinion by booing him. The ONLY logical SANE conclusion to anyone that's not a brainwashed, delusional Cena mark is that alot of people don't like Cena in Detroit.

Originally Posted by Vermaat I didn't say there needed to be a big change in my original post. I said that WWE needs to watch what they are doing because doing the wrong thing at Mania can lead to trouble later on. I looked at some areas where WWE may do wrong.

Newsflash Junior...they are serving up Cena to HHH on a silver platter. Deep down you know it, that's why you felt the need to make this thread. The "change" is that you want Cena to win. Simple enough for you?

Originally Posted by Vermaat But of course you guys just love to pick on typos anything to avoid the FACTS.

There's nothing to avoid, you haven't provided one FACT the entire thread.

Originally Posted by Vermaat Not psychic, I just know people's psychology. Sex sells. Proven FACT.

Again, lumping people into a "flock of sheep" and ignoring the fact that people have individual tastes and opinions....WHICH YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY KNOW IF YOU AREN'T PSYCHIC! If every wrestling fan is just after sex, then explain why Candice has been getting NO REACTION from the fans.

Originally Posted by Vermaat I'm not arguing against the DVD. The DVD didn't say "The WWE had absolutely nothing to do with wCw going out of business".

That's not the point I'm arguing you jackass, obviously WWE had ALOT to do with WCW going out of business. I think jacking off to your Cena posters is making you blind.

Originally Posted by Vermaat And former wCw employees are going to be biased because they want to be viewed as good workers.

What in the blue flying christ are you talking about? Seriously? THEY RIP INTO THE WCW!

Originally Posted by Vermaat I would need to watch the DVD to give you a more concise reasoning on the fans idea, however, even if they did not mention it, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. They may have just not mentioned it !!!

Until you watch the DVD, please shut up. Interviews with people such as Eddie, Benoit, Big Show, Jericho, etc. state their displeasure with WCW because the fact is that the only people Bischoff listened too were Bischoff and the Political monsters behind the curtain that controlled the NWO. All of these people state that everyone was getting sick of the NWO! A quote from the DVD is "On our show, you couldn't tell what month it was." Thus, as the DVD goes on to point out....WCW didn't listen to the fans. The fans LOVED the cruiserweights, luchador's, etc.....but they got ignored. Hell, the fans LOVED Bret Hart when he came to WCW, but it took WCW over a year before they took him seriously and gave him a title shot. Also, on the DVD, a HUGE point is confirmed that proves your theory wrong as well. The only time that WCW listened to the fans and pushed anyone other than the NWO is Goldberg. Thus, eventually fans jumped ship to watch the WWE and lead to WCW getting crap ratings and going out of business. Is that simple enough for you? Therefore, your opinion...which was an assumption based on talking to a few people to begin with, is DEAD WRONG. End of discussion.