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Submission moves
Inspired by that other thread about retiring certain holds.
What happend to the days when submission moves we're effective? In the 90's when a submission move was applied with "excellent ring positioning" there would be no way out. Now it seems no matter what the hold, guys simply push up and find their way to the ropes (unless it's Cena's STF).
Another thing, when did the WWE feel the need to the rid us of the "get to the ropes, break" rule. I know it's still enforced, but they've changed the concept behind it. Kurt Angle's Ankle Lock is a great example. He gets them in the hold, they get to the ropes and then he's able to pull them back to the center of the ring without breaking the hold.
Thoughts on the matter?
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