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Originally Posted by Rob
Angle is a beat up wrestler and Puder is a young fresh trained fighter.
And you must not know MMA or have seen the encounter or you would know what happened. They tied up, Angle tried to outwrestle Puder but he got caught clean in a kimura and it was goodbye to Angle's arm until the refs screwed Puder.
He couldn't even bring himself to shake his Puder's hand after it.
Puder OWNED Angle. That's the end of it.
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He had him in a weak kimura at best. If you want to properly lock someone in a kimura you keep the arm pinned to your own body so the guy can't move his arm without moving you. That kimura could easily be countered. But why on earth wouldn't Kurt Angle just reverse such a manuver if it were so easy to?
Well, I'll answer my own stupid question. Kurt wouldn't reverse that Kimura because to reverse that kimura he would have to spin out and stand, which would have ruined the intent of that shoot. The shoot was to see who the better wrestler was to see who could pin a man to the mat, and Kurt for the most part did that.
In that situation Angle didn't het OWNED he didn't even get beaten. That was a WRESTLING compition not an MMA compitition, and even if it were a MMA compition he didn't have Angle beaten.
But don't let the fact get in the way of a good story.