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Old 08-04-2006, 07:47 PM   #22
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No, Verm. WWE has offered the Dudleys (and Rhino and Raven...) a large sum of money to sign with ECW. And they refused. They're happier being big fish in the small pond of TNA.

Now, I'm going to try to play the peacemaker here, because I think there's a fundamental part of "our" argument that you're just not understanding. Hopefully, by my clarifying this, you'll be able to understand where people are coming from, rather than calling them first-graders.

We're not saying that ECW never had hardcore wrestling.
We're not saying that all hardcore wrestling is bad.
We're not saying that CZW isn't hardcore wrestling.

What we're saying is that CZW is bad hardcore wrestling. ECW had good hardcore wrestling. Matches that had psychology and a story that happened to include tables and chairs and canes. CZW is two idiots whacking each other over the head with lighttubes and calling themselves hardcore.

That's where the KKK comparison came in. The KKK are the farthest reach of the Christian Church, in that these are men who pretend to be Christian while performing horrible un-Christian acts. CZW is like the farthest reach of wrestling, in that they pretend to be wrestlers while performing in horrible matches.

ECW had some great hardcore moments, some arguably more brutal than CZW's "best" stuff. The Born To Be Wired match is a great example of this. But ECW also had Rob Van Dam and Jerry Lynn and Lance Storm and Chris Benoit and Super Crazy and Mike Awesome. Guys who could go hardcore, but could also flat-out wrestle. CZW has guys like Nick Mondo and Madman Pondo who couldn't wrestle their way out of a paper bag.
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