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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
This is totally irrelevent.
You can't compare Samoa Joe in temrs of money to guys in the WWE.
People like HBK and HHH may draw ten fold what Samoa Joe does... However, they also have the audience to do so.
WWE has been around forever. This includes when wrestling was popular. THey have had time to build a market.
TNA and ROH have come around during what is easily a dark period for wrestling.
You can't argue that if Joe were that great, they'd be doing WWE sales, because it's just not realistic. Just like it's not realistic to say WWE's success can be attributed to one or two men.
You have to look at Joe in relation to the place of TNA/ROH. He is going GREAT there in terms of drawing people in, and selling merchandise.
Of course, people in WWE will still outdraw and outsell him because they are a bigger company with a bigger reach.
It's also extremely difficult to get even the most devout wrestling fans to watch a new product. I have tried to get people who watch WWE every week and who love good wrestling to spend ten bucks on an ROH ticket, but they won't. I've meant to watch TNA more, but I haven't. It's not in my routine. It's not because of the quality of the product, it's just because I haven't got around to it. It hasn't even been a year since I got into ROH.
I'm rambling a bit... But the point I'm trying to make is that it's not fair to compare an ROH/TNA guy to WWE guys in terms of drawing, when one business is years ahead in both financial and fan build up.
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Sorry you had to on that tangent, but that's not what I was saying. If Joe was THERE could he draw that amount of money? If Joe was playing at that level could/would he still be a draw? I don't think so. Has done great on the indy circut? For sure. Has he done good for TNA? Most likely. But can he translate to BIG money? I, personally, don't think so.
But ftr, If TNA is wanting to play with the big dogs they should be held to the same standerds.
Anywho I like to compair Joe to Wahoo McDaniel, their styles are similar, their looks are similar, and I hold in the same high asteem. But niether of are going to a make anyone wealthy. Joe will put on great matches, Joe will have wrestled all the best names and the title of having their best matches, he will have quite the cult following, make a few small time promoters a dime, but when it's all said and done he will most likely be the guy who passed the tourch to the true great, and not as that great himself. Now tha's just specualtion on my part, but I'd believe that to Joe's future.
If Joe was in the WWE, do you really believe he could be a JBL level draw? Let alone a Triple or Rey Mysterio draw? I cant see it. Yes, in small time wrestling he is doing FANTASTIC. I am a Joe fan don't get me wrong, he just not deserving of the accolades that he was given.
There is little no interest in the product right now, just certian charectors. And in light of that Joe has wisely appealed to the (very) few fans who want a wrestling product. But most people aren't wanting wrestling, they are wanting Stone Cold or The Rock. People...not the product. Does Joe really have this alledged charisma to get to that level? No. Definatly not.
Joe is great athlete and a great worker, but he does not tranlate to a wide array of people. Sure he works great for these select few, who like a certain type of product, but the masses? I certantly don't think so.