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Originally Posted by The CyNick No offence, but I think Lesnar on RAW is a horrible idea. The only good thing about Lesnar on RAW would be that they could continue the Benoit-Lesnar program which was dropped so Benoit could be Hunter's bitch.

Not neccessarily. Benoit is slated to win the World title either at Wrestlemania, or at Backlash (in front of his hometown fans). Yes - Triple H will probably get a return victory somewhere down the line (which sucks obviously), but it's not like Benoit will get completely buried by Triple H (atleast initially). Benoit/Lesnar would be pretty awesome though.

However, aside from that I see no benefit. If you move Lesnar to RAW, what you will ultimately set up is a babyface HHH defeating a heel World Champion Lesnar at WM XXI. You said that HHH cant squash Lesnar, guess what HHH can squash whoever he wants, except Rock and Austin.

In the absence of Triple H and Goldberg, Lesnar will fill the void of the main-event superstar. In the WWE, only a few people are perceived as bonafide main-event superstars: Triple H, Goldberg, Kurt Angle, and Brock Lesnar. Guys like Guerrero, Cena, Jericho, Kane, Benoit, RVD, etc. are close, but "not quite" there (in Guerrero and Cena's case, they will eventually develop into that role once they get a few more convincing victories). Guys like Foley, The Rock, Austin, Flair, etc. are all past their primes.

This is why I feel that in the absence of Triple H and Goldberg, atleast one of Angle or Lesnar needs to be on Raw.

As far as WM XXI is concerned, I wouldn't mind if Triple H defeated Brock Lesnar cleanly. ...........provided that Triple H developed into a strong enough face and got the appropriate crowd reaction. Also - even if Triple H gets final "say so" on Lesnar in the end, it's not like Triple H will continuosly and consistently defeat Lesnar. If Lesnar plays the heel role, he will squeak out some victories over Hunter (either to retain or capture the World title). If Lesnar becomes a monster heel and the fans REALLY get behind Triple H, then I don't mind seeing Triple H come out on top in the end.

Plus, as a heel, Lesnar will be in comeptition with HHH for spotlight, guess who will lose? So just like on SD, Lesnar will take a backseat. At least on SD he doesn't have to worry about Hunter purposely trying to kill his heat.

How long will Triple H be filming anyways?

Also - I don't think Triple H was THAT successful in burying Goldberg that much (if he actually does play a large role in "burying" people like you seem to think). Granted - Goldberg wasn't pushed like he was in WCW, but he still ended up getting a World title reign (including clean victories over Hunter). If Trips was willing to do this to Goldberg, then I'm sure he'd be willing to do this with Lesnar.

Plus I'm still hoping they do a shooters group with Angle, Lesnar and WGTT.

This idea sounds excellent. I like the scenerio that you described below (the fact that Angle, Lesnar, and WGTT aren't friends, but have an alliance with one another due to their common backgrounds). These guys help each other out due to the alliance (i.e. if Angle is champ, Lesnar helps him retain and vice versa).

People countering this stable, would be Guerrero, Cena, Taker, and a returning Edge. Speaking of Edge, he would have beef with.........one of Benjamin and Hass for putting him out of commission (Hass/Benjamin being the ones who attacked Edge at last year's No Way Out PPV should help them get more heel heat).

On top of that, the WWE needs to create a special match for Mania next year, IMO right now, that match is Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Brock Lesnar. We all know the back story there, and to the casual audience you got to see the seeds planted last week on RAW. If you keep Brock on SD and Austin on RAW, there is an opportunity to do a year long build because the guys can only interact on 4 ocassions. IMO, that builds the match as something special, maybe not on the level of Rock-Hogan or Austin-Rock or Andre-Hogan, but it will seem big. Especially with Austin not having wrestled a match in 2 years by next years' time.

That scenerio sounds excellent as well.

I realize you suggested the same macth, btu you have it on Backlash with Brock on RAW. So what you've done is made it seem like a run of the mill match, its not a special deal, because they will be beating on each other for 4 weeks leading to the PPV. If you keep them apart, you have a year long anticipation and very little confrontation, IMO that creates even more anticipation.

Your idea sounds good. However - I think between Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania of next year, there should be a little more 'confrontation' between Austin and Lesnar (maybe once every 2 or 3 weeks). Other than that - I like the idea that you proposed.

You could have something like Austin costing Lesnar the title at Summerslam, say against Eddie. Then you do soemthing where Lesnar gets revenge on Austin at Survivor Series, and then at the Rumble Austin costs Lesnar the Royal Rumble. In between Lesnar could go on TV and call Austin a coward cuz he doesn't wrestle anymore, and then finally that leads to Austin agreeing to step back in the ring risking his health.

My only problem with this match, is Austin jobbing. Usually, "hero's" (in the marks' eyes) can't JOB to the young punk. It's hard to explain - but it just makes the 'hero' look bad and 'disappointing'. On the same token, you can't have a past-your-prime wrestler beating a top star.

I'd say one of two things have to happen:

1) Lesnar defeats Austin in a very close match.....one that last a good 15-20 minutes.

2)Austin defeats Lesnar, only to return the favor a month later (kind of like what may happen with Foley/Orton).

Edge is going to RAW at this point, thats about a 90% guarantee, so I dont think SD should lose another guy. And like Ive been saying SD is thin on top heels, not faces, so losing Lesnar would be a huge blow. Whereas RAW has Hunter, Orton/Batista, Kane and Christian starting to get a push, so I dont see them needing more heels.

I made the post saying that if Edge is going to Raw, then Lesnar should stay on Smackdown. My "hope" was that perhaps Lesnar could go to Raw, while Edge could come back to Smackdown as a heel (although they would have to drop the whole "who hit Edge?" storyline if they did that).

The top heels would be Angle, Edge, and Christian (who comes to SD in the proposed Lesnar deal), while the top faces would be Cena, Guerrero, and Taker. I also proposed that guys like Storm and Hurricane become a part of Smackdown so that perhaps they could be further developed (especially Lance Storm).

However - your 'shooter' stable sounds like a much better idea IMO. Good call.