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Originally Posted by Rob
You want the negatives?
1 - Already a stupid amount of wrestling shows on PPV already. WWE does something like 16. TNA does 12. UFC are doing a minimum of 12 and don't anyone even come out with they aren't competition because WWE gives a shit who UFC are and don't care who ROH are. As soon as somebody is trying to get you to buy their monthly show, it's competition.
2 - ROH is built on DVD sales. Those sales are doing down now. Fact! People won't buy DVDs and PPVs of the same show when they roughly come out at the same time.
3 - PPV's that are taped NEVER do well.
4 - They are barely a blip on the IWC. You think the average person will chose ROH over WWE or TNA when their production is worse than anything ECW put on PPV?
5 - They won't even come close to TNA's buyrates and will very soon be losing money. When you are on PPV, you immediately lose 50% of fee you charge your customers to the PPV companies. Then it takes forever to get your money (and it's not 50% either) back from the companies. Plus you can't charge more than you charge for your DVDs so that's even less money. Oh and the IWC are fucking famous for bootlegging shit through torrents and what not so that's even less money being spent on PPV.
6 - If ROH had anything resembling a star, they are all gone now.
Gabe always said he would never want them to do PPV and I'd be shocked if this was his call. The writing is on the wall for ROH now.
Oh and I LOVE how at least one of the people getting their nipples so hard about the prospect of ROH being on PPV... DOESN'T EVEN LIVE IN NORTH AMERICA!!! He can't even get the fucking show on TV.
But I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. Or maybe I'm just telling you what you refuse to believe.
Rob - Telling it like it is.
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And coming off as hostile and arrogrant.
Look, I'll be the first to admit that I'm still learning about wrestling and I don't know everything about it, so the comment of "I'm not telling you anything you don't alreadly know or I refuse to believe it" was stupid because guess what, I had no idea what negatives this would have and was asking for someone's insight.
A lot of your points I can't debate. However, I'm agreeing and disagreeing with your fourth point. In comparsion to WWE, UFC and possibly TNA, yes, they aren't that big, but the way I see it, they're doing a lot better than most independent feds, so I wouldn't call them a blip when someone's able to recognize the initials 'ROH' but not 'AWE'. I will agree that their production quality needs work. After watching that video clip again, I thought to myself 'That might pass for DVD release, but they really need more lighting and more camera work done if they're going on PPV.' And until things have changed, they really need a second microphone, it's awkward to see them pass around a mic, especially during promos with rivalries and it's going to come off as bush-league.
I don't see this as a nail in the coffin for ROH, but after hearing what you've said, I do think this may hurt them. Hopefully, they're smart enough to pull the plug on PPVs if it's doing more harm than good.