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**Mr. Nerfect** · 05-03-2007, 12:08 PM

Rob definitely knows his shit, no doubt about that, but I definitely see that as being a good thing.

What is Ring of Honor supposed to do? Sit on their thumbs and wait until Vince dies? ROH is also a slightly different product to the WWE and TNA. This isn't a WWA, it's more an "alternative" than the same shit being packaged in a different bottle.

I know it's not suddenly going to make ROH catch on like wildfire, but this could be the grease the turns the wheels. I mean, the countries that have ROH on television would probably be eager to get some hands on PPVs. This American deal might be exclusive at the moment, but I don't see it as ROH trying to bite off more than it can chew, but rather them finally taking those first steps to becoming a player. Not the biggest, but possibly the best.

In a climate where the WWE and (sadly) now TNA throw crap at the viewers screens, Ring of Honor provides quality. Maybe I haven't been following the promotion enough, but has ROH ever put on a bad show? I don't mean one match that didn't click, I mean a show people regretting seeing?

I know your argument wasn't against the quality of ROH, rather the money this is costing compared to the money it is raking in, but I really think the promotion has grown. They're doing world tours, they've got some healthy relationships with Japan. I don't know business as well as I could (I do have some education in the area), but it wouldn't surprise me if ROH strikes up a working agreement with Pro Wrestling NOAH, Dragon Gate and maybe even some smaller American independant promotions, to get them mentions, and maybe even their titles defended at a show.

Sure, ROH's DVD sales are down, but YouTube viewings are up. I mean, ROH fans are smart, they aren't going to fork out all this cash for a DVD, when they can just type "Bryan Danielson" into YouTube. That could also come into play with the PPV thing, but I think loyalty will come into play here.

I mean, just polling people here, who will actually support this thing? If ROH were holding PPVs in Australia, I'd order them quite gladly. Definitely over WWE and TNA. ROH definitely has those two promotions beat in terms of quality, and I don't think quality is a factor that can completely be ignored.

I guess I'm just being positive, but I want to see this thing work. I don't think ROH would take such a big chance if it means they'd be done for. It wouldn't take much to rebuild, but I don't think the risks aren't being evaluated by ROH.

I wouldn't look at this as the climax for ROH (at least, I hope not), but rather a stepping stone. Just order their events, support the art form, and maybe the WWE will take notice, and throw them cash under the table like they did with ECW back in the day. I'm not going to call this a stupid move, I've going to call it ambitious, and I'm glad there is finally a quality wrestling product out there.

05-03-2007, 12:08 PM	#49
Mr. Nerfect Posts: 61,634	Rob definitely knows his shit, no doubt about that, but I definitely see that as being a good thing. What is Ring of Honor supposed to do? Sit on their thumbs and wait until Vince dies? ROH is also a slightly different product to the WWE and TNA. This isn't a WWA, it's more an "alternative" than the same shit being packaged in a different bottle. I know it's not suddenly going to make ROH catch on like wildfire, but this could be the grease the turns the wheels. I mean, the countries that have ROH on television would probably be eager to get some hands on PPVs. This American deal might be exclusive at the moment, but I don't see it as ROH trying to bite off more than it can chew, but rather them finally taking those first steps to becoming a player. Not the biggest, but possibly the best. In a climate where the WWE and (sadly) now TNA throw crap at the viewers screens, Ring of Honor provides quality. Maybe I haven't been following the promotion enough, but has ROH ever put on a bad show? I don't mean one match that didn't click, I mean a show people regretting seeing? I know your argument wasn't against the quality of ROH, rather the money this is costing compared to the money it is raking in, but I really think the promotion has grown. They're doing world tours, they've got some healthy relationships with Japan. I don't know business as well as I could (I do have some education in the area), but it wouldn't surprise me if ROH strikes up a working agreement with Pro Wrestling NOAH, Dragon Gate and maybe even some smaller American independant promotions, to get them mentions, and maybe even their titles defended at a show. Sure, ROH's DVD sales are down, but YouTube viewings are up. I mean, ROH fans are smart, they aren't going to fork out all this cash for a DVD, when they can just type "Bryan Danielson" into YouTube. That could also come into play with the PPV thing, but I think loyalty will come into play here. I mean, just polling people here, who will actually support this thing? If ROH were holding PPVs in Australia, I'd order them quite gladly. Definitely over WWE and TNA. ROH definitely has those two promotions beat in terms of quality, and I don't think quality is a factor that can completely be ignored. I guess I'm just being positive, but I want to see this thing work. I don't think ROH would take such a big chance if it means they'd be done for. It wouldn't take much to rebuild, but I don't think the risks aren't being evaluated by ROH. I wouldn't look at this as the climax for ROH (at least, I hope not), but rather a stepping stone. Just order their events, support the art form, and maybe the WWE will take notice, and throw them cash under the table like they did with ECW back in the day. I'm not going to call this a stupid move, I've going to call it ambitious, and I'm glad there is finally a quality wrestling product out there.