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Old 05-11-2007, 12:51 AM   #211
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Well judging strictly by the films, lets judge Batman and Spiderman and the secret of their identitys. I'm going by memory, so correct me or add anything I forget.
I'll only count the first 3 batman films to make it even.

In Batman, Vicky Vale gets nailed by him and then suddenly shes in on it. She has VIP access to the Batcave and his whole life, and what do you know, she's gone from the story. She wasn't even an intrical part. At least Mary Jane was the love of Peter's life, and was his best friend for years. And it took her 2 movies to find out, and she was hanging around for the long haul.

Then you have the villians. Every villian in the first 3 spiderman movies found out spidermans's identity. Almost the same with Batman. Batman brought it up to Joker, not worrying about revealing it, because he had revenge on his mind and was planning on offing with him. Hmmm, sounds like Spidey and Sandman.
Then of course you have Catwoman, who Batman rips his mask off to persuade. Like Sandman, she lives, and she's out there but it's not really an issue since theres no hard feelings.

As for Goblin. Spiderman never reveals it to him, he finds it out. This is similar to Riddler and Two Face. That's two characters, not one. Either way Riddler goes insane and Two Face takes the plunge.
Then you have another chick, Chase Meridian, he nails her and shes in on the secret until she takes off just like Vale. Yea, thats two vindictive ex-girlfriends with a way to ruin your life. What are the chances one of them isn't selling the story to the press?

Walken's character finds out by accident too. I'll give Robin a pass since he became a sidekick, but theres a kid whos hanging out in the house and falls down the stairs into the batcave.

In spidey's case, his best friend with a vendetta against him finds out. That's highly story driven. His love interest finds out (finally). Norman Osborn and Octavius were personal villians with Peter, therefore his identity being revealed to them adds a lot more weight. Unlike Batman, where in most cases it's just bad guys with dirt on him.

Either way, a superheros identity being revealed to villians is not entirely rare. Espeically in a genre of movies where the villian is not a recurring character like in a monthly book, but a one off antagonist. If they're dying 5 minutes later, and especially if it drives the plot, whats the big deal?

Harry and MJ finding out, key. Much better than flavor of the month hookups with keys to the batcave.

Osborn and Octavius, key to the depth of the fued with Goblin, and in Otto's case, his salvation. Cool moments as well.
Venom's knowledge was built in, bell tower regardless.
Sandman never really knew until the end, but once again key to bringing closure to what makes both characters tick.

So the only gripe I'm seeing people have is the train. Which I thought was a touching and poingant scene. I think it means a lot to the series, and Spidey finally getting credit. Plus the idea of people showing gratitude for their lives, and keeping that secret out of respect is meaningful, even if in this crappy world its unrealistic.


I do see what you mean about him taking his masks off on roofs being worse than the batcave, but I still don't see the problem in it.
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