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Originally Posted by King Jericho
1: If you get kicked in the gut hard enough, your going to get winded, now the most natural reaction to getting winded is bending over.
2: hmmm..the pedigree doesn't look like it hurts bad enough to get a pin fall, ok when you fall over you try to automatically put your arms down to break your fall, now if someones got you underhooked by the arms then whats stopping you (in the case of a padigree) but your face (or maybe a when the rock or kane takes a pedigree then put a knee down)
also the pedigree (enough the im totalling in agreement with the whole HHH-era thing) is one of the worst looking finishing moves in the business
3: When taking a figure four the pain, if applied directly and with the intension of hurting f>ucking hurts, the pain from your knee is seriously bad (if applied properly) the muscles that are on the inside of your knee and the back of your knee is where the pain comes

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1. Damn right. Lotta people who get hit/kicked in the gut'll stay down.
2. The Pedigree does tend to smash you in the face...Or, at least it would if it was a real move and not staged. Of course, in the real world, most people would never be able to land the pedigree against an oppononent above the age of 5, unless they're fighting a quadraplegic.
3. Submission moves are generally watered down. Most of them really hurt.