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Originally Posted by Instant Classic
First and foremost, as of late I have been a big TNA fan, and actually I am enjoying them more then RAW right now. What's go great about the Indy scene? It's a good place for young up and comers to get their start and to learn the business, but as for making a career of it? If you wanted to then fine, but I'm guessing most Indy guys have bigger dreams then working in front of 300 people.
Now, I don't think that just because a guy isn't in WWE that he isn't worth it.
I'm a big Christian fan, I like Angle, but both were WWE, so. But I also like James Storm, Robert Roode, and AJ Styles for the past 3 or 4 months. There's even undercarders I'm high on such as Shelley(Who I liked in ROH)and Chris Sabin, Homicide and even Machismo and Dutt to an extent, along with a few others I'm to lazy to name. And as for the Indy's I like Austin Aries, mainly cause he's the only still left in ROH that I know.
The fact is Indy's dont bring anything to the table for the most part, other then the wide variety of moves they allow their wrestlers to do, but even thats's pointless without physcology, which a majority of the Indy wrestlers lack.
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I see what you're saying, but again, I'll compare it to filmmaking. Not every director cares if his movie breaks all kinds of records, and lands him on the cover of some shitty magazine. A director might just want to make a good movie with some meaning behind it, and actors might just want to appear in such films. The independent wrestling scene is a lot like the independent film circuit to the WWE (and even TNA's) Hollywood.
We're getting into psychology again, and I think we both know each other's view on this. I think the independent scene allows for more psychology, as guys are allowed to do whatever they want, and are allowed to string together their matches based on their strengths and talents. In the WWE, everyone is scripted to what the "producers" suggest, and it is a whole lot less organic.
Any guy would theoretically be much better on the indies than in the WWE, because he is allowed to do what he wants to do, and his matches will be his own, and not one with zero psychology, an occasional body slam and a thousand chinlocks. Sure, you might see a lot of guys who fall flat on their face when they try and put on their own matches (I don't see it nearly as often as you seem to, though, I suggest you stop watching shit indie promotions), but a lot of the bigger promotions like ROH, PWG and IWA-MS hire guys with a great understanding of how to structure a match.
When playing with a formula, there is only so far you can go, but when you are throwing out completely fresh ideas, there is no limit to the success you can achieve (quality-wise). I'm not saying that all indies are > than WWE, but they are less controlling and more supportive of their talent to be themselves, and anyone will tell you that is how guys really blossom as performers.
If the WWE hired guys based on talent, and not how much they can bench, and let guys cut their own promos, and wrestle their own matches, every advantage of the independent scene would be lost. Unfortunately, this is no longer the WWE of the Attitude-era, and guys are hired and them slapped with shitty gimmicks and toned down to the point where people complain because they don't impress them. Well, guh, there's only so much you are allowed to do in the WWE.