[Dave Youell]

WOAH!!!!

What the hell, Alienoid, you should be very ashamed of yourself and The Optimist. You're part of an elite group that can see the light in some decisions. I will try my best:

Originally Posted by Fallen I am NOT a big Jeff Hardy fan, but to come off the back of a win over Umaga, becoming the new IC champion (lets not get in to the booking of the titles and what they mean), here is a chance to make a strong upper carder. What do they do? Put him over the next Raw, yes? NO, they have him lose in a 5 minute squash.

This was to make Kahli look strong for the PPV, nothing against Hardy, a loss to Kahli is hardly going to effect his pops, the guy is over like rover, so if you were going to have Kahli take a win over anyone on the RAW roster, I’d use Jeff, he’s over so Kahli in turn will get some heat for the beat down. And Jeff will be just as over next week. Jeff also doesn’t have a match at the PPV so it’s not like it’s affected him at all really.

Originally Posted by Fallen AND the biggest angle in the WWE at the minute ends with Hornswaggle. Its a TERRIBLE waste of a big opportunity for any wrestler on the brands. For the next month, they will be short Main Eventers, and this was the chance to throw someone else in the mix....and it was completely wasted.

You can blame Mr Kennedy for this one, it was obvious that they had a plan for it, this could just be a way to stall and they could pick a different person as the father, but they had a week to come up with something, the PPV was all sorted so they knew who was going in all the spots, so no one needed a rub for that. They will either just have a month of comedy skits with a midget or we will learn who the kid is in a few weeks time, it’s not really that big a deal is it, it was and still is a stupid angle, so expect a stupid outcome

Originally Posted by Fallen Triple H...has already started to irritate me. King Booker (although not mattering so much now), was embarrassed in 8 minutes on PPV, after over a year of character development. Umaga, again, built up over countless others...destroyed by "The Game", and just to put the cherry on the cake this week. Remember Shelton beat HHH before? Does not matter now, that was cancelled out this week on Raw...terrible.

It was obvious whoever a guy faces on his return that they are going to do a job, I don’t see anyone bitching about Chavo jobbing to Rey. Booker has had a heck of a run with the King stuff, he’d been put over a lot since coming to Raw to make him look strong. It was a throw away match as Summerslam and Booker is hardly known as being a bad ass heel right now is/was he? In a straight one on one match with no cheating, he should NEVER win with someone who is at the same level as him, he’s a dick for a heel, he needs to cheat etc to get a win, in this scenario it was all about trips. Plus if he came back on TV I doubt anyone would care/remember him losing as he has such a great gimmick to carry past the win/loss record. He fits into the same category as Jeff Hardy for me, he has a connection with the fans which means they can job and not lose heat, they are a valuable resource and can and have been used correctly.

Oh and Shelton jobbing? Who the hell cares, he’s been a tag guy for a while, he’s having single’s matches to just keep him on TV until Haas gets back, if I were him I’d just be thankful I’m still getting TV time

Originally Posted by Fallen ...and the characters...Shelton dies his hair blonde....this is meant to be a character change? I don't have a clue!

It’s done to get yourself recognised, it’s called gimmicks, Booker has a crown and a cape, Jeff has 8 different colours in his hair, it’s cone to get you remembered, so if a casual fan watches, he might not know Shelton’s name, but he can remember the black guy with blonde hair, because it looked unique

Originally Posted by Fallen Kennedy, I like him...but all he does is repeat his name, lets be honest here.

Again, it’s a gimmick, gets you remembered, I agree that his work rate isn’t what it was before his first injury over a year and a half ago, but his overall mike work and heat generation is very good.

Originally Posted by Fallen Masters, Shelton, Haas, Matt Hardy (took away the whole V1 thing), Mike Knox (lol) each more bland than the next.

Masters: Come on leaps and bounds since he started, brought in waaaay too early, but since then has managed to get his finisher really over and has his unique Masterlock challenges

Shelton/Hass: I can’t disagree, they are better in tags as when they are single’s, frankly, they suck, lack of charisma

Matt Hardy: Are you fucking kidding me? He’s one of the hottest things on Smackdown right now, he’s awesome in the ring and is a really good story teller, his feud with MVP has been the best thing on TV this year IMO. His V1 stuff as a heel was his most entertaining, but as a face there’s only so much you can do to get heat. Considering the limited mic time he gets, most of his character is based on what he does in the ring, which is fucking awesome stuff.

Originally Posted by Fallen Even the main event wrestlers...Cena is not a rapper anymore, Orton kicks people in the head, and Batista dances in his entrance....it is NOT stunning TV.

It’s not 1999 anymore, no matter how much everyone wants another Rock and another Austin it’s not going to happen, Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior were different as well in the previous boom period, it’s obvious that for the past 7 years wrestling generally hasn’t been as hot, it’s nothing new, if you don’t like the TV, don’t watch it. If you want to see guys coming in on zamboni’s and beating up the boss, watch some tapes. Stop living in the past.

Originally Posted by Fallen I heard SCSA made a speech at SummerSlam asking the wrestlers to do what he did, make your own character....maybe another attitude era is needed, I really don't know anymore.

No, another attitude era isn’t needed, something new is needed, but not going back to the well. In all honesty, as I’ve said in previous posts, I think the next 2 years could see a turnaround, if the government get tight on them, it means less big roid freaks and more guys who can work and talk (i.e smaller guys with more talent, ala 93 with the Bret/Michaels era) Sure the ratings will be lower, but it will be better for us real wrestling fans. Things are going to get worse before they get better, make no mistake about it, there will be more guys who leave and others that need to step up to the plate, it’s going to be a lot of change, and change is a good thing, it’s what kick started Vince into making his own stars after they all jumped ship to the WCW in the mid 90’s. I hope things get better, I do and I understand people’s frustrations, but you have a simple choice, if you like what you see, watch it, if you don’t, change the channel. I don’t like women’s wrestling, so I normally change the channel when it’s on. Simple really