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Old 10-24-2007, 10:57 AM   #26
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I'm going to respond to your post because it was intelligent.
Hot diggity damn.

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...I don't want him to get it just for the sake of it.
The problem is, though, that if he drops the title immediately... then that's what he just did. He picked up the belt for sake of picking it up. Now WWE's forced to make him run with it, and actually do something with the reign, lest it come off as a worthless way to add another rank on Randy's list of accomplishments. If they have him drop the belt, it's going to look like the writers are flailing--they don't know what they're doing, and the belt turns into a hot potato. Not that the writers' credibility is a good defense for the title reign--the overall storyline has to be considered. Again, if Randy drops the belt now, it'll have made the initial win totally pointless. They've already put the belt on him, it'd be a waste to have him lose it. They might as well milk what little they can out of the fact that Orton's now champion. I'm sure they can think of something relevant.

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Also, I don't recall saying Matt Hardy was more credible. I just said he was better. He's ahead of Jeff in every department, besides pot-smoking and diving off ladders. Personally, I would argue he is more credible. He has a better look, better ring skills, he's a better talker, he's more charismatic (see his Mattitude character), and he's just a little bigger than Jeff to the point where his size makes him look like he can do some damage.
Matt's jobbed like it's going out of style since the Mattitude era, though. Again, I feel like the Edge/Lita angle was where it went downhill--Matt came back hotter than curly fries, only to get totally stomped out by Edge's rise to the main event. From there, it was a long, painful ride down the Smackdown ladder. Yeah, he's made a recovery more recently, but it's hard to see him as anything greater than lower midcard after getting worked over so many times. He has some sort of... jobber taint on him. Every time I watch a Matt Hardy match, I expect him to lose any minute. Yeah, he makes a wonderful underdog that way, but I can't see him being champion without rehashing Rey Mysterio's reign.

Jeff Hardy's had his down periods, but he's been a pretty consistent midcard/upper midcard guy. He's never gotten huge wins, but he has had some pretty close calls against main event guys. Is he less talented? Hell yes. He's never reached that rock bottom of jobberdom that Matt has, though.

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That being said, it does seem that as soon as Matt Hardy pulls in front of Jeff (rightfully, in my opinion), Jeff gets something handed to him that completely washes away Matt's achievement. It's kind of funny that Matt Hardy is chasing his first United States Title, meanwhile Jeff Hardy is in his fourth IC Title reign. I'm still holding out on Matt Hardy as World Champion first, however. I'm warming up to the idea of Jeff doing the same, though. I think the Hardy that gets there first will open the door for his brother. If Matt can become a World Champion, Jeff probably will, and vice versa.

For the most part, I think the WWE realises this, and I think they know that they have two (relative) stars on their hands, to help out on the understaffing problem. I've always liked Matt better, though.
I'm fully expecting that if, by some bizarre crack writing, one of the Hardies actually gets the big belt... the other Hardy is going to feud with him. Whether Matt'll chase Jeff or Jeff'll chase Matt, it'll probably roll on until someone more credible comes back from injury and ruins the whole fucking angle (Batista winning the David vs Goliath setup that he had nothing to do with, for a recent example. Actually, I'd put money down that Batista would be the guy to fuck it up).

Rarely do either of the Hardy boys get a solid push without some sort of crisis occuring, though. If enough top guys get injured, then yeah, I could see one of them becoming champion. You'd have to go through a pretty fat list of jacked up, talentless shitheads before they dropped the belt on a Hardy, though. I mean, look at the Cyber Sunday poll: Is there a Hardy on it because the WWE's got a thing for them, or because there's nobody the fuck else to run for it? You know the poll options would be Cena, HHH, and Shawn Michaels, if God weren't so easily amused by optimism.
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