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Old 03-11-2004, 11:54 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by BCWWF
Basically, your whole theory stinks. You need to have experience to win in the playoffs is basically what you are saying, so basically no new team can ever win in the playoffs. With this logic, the Jazz should still be trying to make a run to beat the Bulls in the NBA Finals. Wait though, those teams have changed, they no longer have the same players and are no longer good, so we won't be seeing them in the NBA Finals anytime soon.

Two years ago, the Nets made the NBA Finals for the first time in their franchise history, they had no playoff experience, how does that work with this logic? The Spurs hadn't done anything spectacular in the playoffs since 1999, but they took it all last year. Of course a team like Memphis isn't expected to go through the first round of the playoffs this year, that doesn't rule them out of going to the second round next year.

Both the Timberwolves and the Spurs totally changed their core players over the offseason. The Spurs added Rasho, Turkolu, and Ward as their biggest additions in the past year, none of those guys have proven that they can win a championship, especially Rasho who was a major part in all of the Timberwolves losses of the past. The Timberwolves, on the other hand, added Cassell, Sprewell, Olowokandi, Madsen, Johnson, Hoiberg, Oliver Miller, and Hassell. To judge a team who has changed all but four of their players from last year is cursed is just ignorant. The Timberwolves you are seeing in the playoffs is a team that you have never seen before, simple as that.

The whole key to the Spurs success will be Tony Parker, who more than anyone else being discussed in this topic at all has yet to proove himself in the playoffs. If Parker can play at his peak, he is almost unstoppable, the key word there is the if.
It's not my theory that stinks, it's your interpretation of it. For me to say no new team can win in the postseason would be stupid, but that's not what I'm saying, though you may want me to think so. I've seen teams that have never won advance, but I still don't think the Wolves will be one of those teams this year. Experience is a plus. It's not a prerequisite to winning. Having been deep into the playoffs, I think, is an advantage because it is nothing new to a team that has been there.

The Spurs haven't done anything spectacular in the playoffs since 1999. It's amazing that you would even fix your hands to type such stupidity. How can you talk about SA's playoff failures when the Wolves' entire playoff history is based on failure? Two of those seasons they didn't win, they did lose to the eventual champion and the other Tim Duncan was injured and they lost to Phoenix in the first round. At least they lost in the first round without Duncan.
Memphis will be good in about three or four years, no sooner. I see Houston going to Round 2 before I see Memphis there. I can even see Houston beating the Wolves, just like they did last Friday.

The Spurs only replaced David Robinson and added some bench players. They still have the same core. The Wolves have changed their core considerably. Well, KG was their core before this season. The Spurs added Nesterovic, Turkoglu, and Charlie Ward and none of these guys have proven that they can win a championship? You say that like these guys were former franchise players. Besides, individual players don't win titles, teams do. You talk about theories that stink. With this logic, let's say the Spurs add a player like Jermaine O'Neal. Surely this guy has never won a championship, so.....No, I really don't see your point. Among the players added by the Wolves, only Cassell and Madsen have won titles and only Cassell was an actual contributor, as was stated in a previous post. I don't understand how you tried to construe my words as if I said you need experience to win in the playoffs, yet you are saying that certain players the Spurs added haven't won a championship. That entire third paragraph was a pointless ramble. Didn't the Spurs add Robert Horry,a 5-time champion, also? That doesn't matter because you think he sucks anyway, don't you?

I guess Tim Duncan won't have anything to do with the Spurs trying to repeat. Tony Parker, more than anyone discussed in this topic has yet to prove himself in the playoffs? Oh my God. I just can't believe you would say something like that. You don't believe that yourself. Well, KG is being discussed more than any other great player in the entire NBA abbout having yet to prove himself in the playoffs. You prove yourself by winning. I just can't undesrtand why you would say these asinine things.

Yeah, the Wolves are a team I've never seen before. So what? The Lakers are a team I've never seen before either. You make it sound like it's a warning or something.

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