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Old 12-17-2003, 09:11 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by The CyNick
Goldberg gets cheered like crazy when he's booked right. I dont know if you watched Summerslam, but in Phonenix they were going crazy for those 5 or 6 minutes that they booked him like Goldberg. Then HHH got in, and well we know what happened.

I'm not going to go deep in the Goldberg issue because its been talked to death, but no I wouldn't mind to see Christian or Hardy get squashed by Goldberg so long as it may lead to him being a draw. I mean you look at what they did in WCW, and ultimately it made the company stronger, so if everyone had to get squashed for Goldberg to get over, thats okay becaus eit could bring people to the arenas and increase PPV buys, which would benefit everyone.
Perhaps Goldberg squashing people is "passe".....and no longer HAS the ability to draw. Perhaps it's more of a nostalgia thing now. I mean - when Austin beats up the boss for instance, people still mark out. However - it's a "passe" concept and so it no longer has the ability to draw. Perhaps there is a parallel here?

Also - do you think it's possible that Goldberg was simply a "big fish in a small pond"? I mean - Goldberg was the f'cking man in WCW, but was he really "just as big" as guys like Austin, The Rock, or even a Chris Jericho for that matter?

Goldberg, as a main-event face, has been SEEN before. Perhaps this is why it can no longer draw. We haven't seen Chris Jericho get a main-event face run before. Since ECW had limited exposure, not many people have seen RVD as a main-event face. Because of this, perhaps both these men can be a bigger draw than Goldberg?



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WWE didn't do that, and whenevr they book him like just another star, he doesn't get over. Thats why I think he's finished as a viable character in the WWE. I dont know how his contract is worded, but I'm sure he'd agree to lay down for Lesnar, since thats been the plan for a while now. If he doesn't agree, then just let him go.
I agree to an extent with what you are saying (it's very unlikely that the WWE will push Goldberg in the same 'squash' manner that he was in WCW), but I disagree with him "no longer being a viable character". Call me crazy, but I genuinely feel that the fans want to boo the shit out of Goldberg (unlike when he was heel in WCW).

I think Goldberg would be an excellent heel. I think it would be refreshing for his (stale?) character. We'd get to see some feuds that we haven't seen before. Goldberg vs. HBK, Goldberg vs. Booker T, Goldberg vs. RVD, etc.

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As for the brand extension if they were to bring the rosters back together instead of HHH, Taker and other taking up the top spots on one show each, they will take up spots on both shows, which means guys like Benoit and others will have an even harder time reaching the top.


In 2000 it was a different because HHH and Rocky were relatively new main eventers, and they had an influx of new talent that was sniffing near the main event. Problem was soon after when HHH solidified his spot on top and wouldn't let other get a snif at his expense. Since then we've seen the top guys refuse to do key JOBs for younger talent, thats the main problem right now. Nobody is allowed to get up to the main event level to create fresh matches and new stars. I dont see how re-unifying the rosters will help that problem.
Great point, but I don't think the glass ceiling will be quite as big as you say. I think there would be a SERIOUS outcry and protest if guys like Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle (who are bonafide established main-eventers now) were to be buried by Triple H.

If anything, I think the glass ceiling could be eliminated. I think guys like Angle and Lesnar could serve as a "bridge" of sorts between Triple H/Goldberg (main-eventers) and guys like Jericho/Benoit/RVD (guys who should be main-eventing but aren't).

In other words, I think Triple H and Goldberg would job to guys like Lesnar and Angle if push came to shove. Guys like Lesnar and Angle, would be willing to put over Benoit, RVD, and Jericho in my opinion. Hence - a "bridge" is created and no glass ceiling. .


p.s. Call me crazy, but I also believe that Triple H will do the right thing for the business when the time comes. Triple H has been earning a bit of my respect back of late. He not only has jobbed to Goldberg on consecutive occassions, but he jobbed cleanly to HBK the other night. Maybe I'm an eternal optimist.
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