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**Cactus Sid** · 03-18-2004, 06:58 PM

To be fair Rob, and be honest here, because the only answer you can really give is yes, you are only defending the issue because he's a Manchester United player. If he played for Liverpool you wouldn't give a shit, and you wouldn't defend him, and you know that's true. Conversly, I admit that I am pushing the issue because Ferdinand plays for United, but I still see the fact that he deserved what he got.

I'm gonna really look into this Negouai thing, because I think its an important issue, however what you are essentially saying is that the whole thing is a deliberate attempt at holding United down? Is this what you think?

Hell, even if they were trying to clamp down on United, can you blame them? Again, I would like to see the details of the Negouai incident, but at the same time, United basically shot themselves in the foot, because they let the player leave when he had a drugs test to take. Now, basically, Ferdinand turned off his mobile phone, when he turned it on, he didn't take the calls, he visited an external doctor, then switched his phone back on, at which the point the FA had already left. This is what I believe happened. I would like to see the reasons Negouai didn't take the test, if he did just go and pick his Grandma up, while it being complete shite, it doesn't hold the same deal that Ferdinand did. How can you explain walking away from the scene where you and your team mates have been told to take a drugs test? How can you explain that after your fellow team mates took the test, you did not, and furthermore, after being told by your team mates you had to take a test, why did you not take it? Why did Ferdinand then leave the premises, and travel to an external doctor? Why did Ferdinand not immediatly return to the premises to attempt to take the drugs test? You see, even if Ferdinand did want to take the test, the very fact that what happened above is seriously incriminating. No excuses, and I feel that such deliberate flouting of the rules deserve the ban he recieved. I want to see the verdict of the Negouai case, and the reason why he was fined and not suspended, if the FA have given a clear reason why each verdict has been given, then I can decide whether or not the incidents are identical or not.

A missed test is indeed a missed test, and maybe the FA have some explaining to do about each incident and why they gave what they gave, but as far as I'm concerned, Rio Ferdinand deserved an 8 month ban, because he refused to take a drugs test.

Maybe it shouldn't be Ferdinand who gets the punishment, maybe it should be United or in the Negouai case, City, because they should be the ones ensuring that the players take the test, but at the end of the day, fining a club isn't going to doing anything, but suspending or fining a player is.

I'll come back into this thread tomorrow once I found some details of the Negouai case.

03-18-2004, 06:58 PM	#12
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	To be fair Rob, and be honest here, because the only answer you can really give is yes, you are only defending the issue because he's a Manchester United player. If he played for Liverpool you wouldn't give a shit, and you wouldn't defend him, and you know that's true. Conversly, I admit that I am pushing the issue because Ferdinand plays for United, but I still see the fact that he deserved what he got. I'm gonna really look into this Negouai thing, because I think its an important issue, however what you are essentially saying is that the whole thing is a deliberate attempt at holding United down? Is this what you think? Hell, even if they were trying to clamp down on United, can you blame them? Again, I would like to see the details of the Negouai incident, but at the same time, United basically shot themselves in the foot, because they let the player leave when he had a drugs test to take. Now, basically, Ferdinand turned off his mobile phone, when he turned it on, he didn't take the calls, he visited an external doctor, then switched his phone back on, at which the point the FA had already left. This is what I believe happened. I would like to see the reasons Negouai didn't take the test, if he did just go and pick his Grandma up, while it being complete shite, it doesn't hold the same deal that Ferdinand did. How can you explain walking away from the scene where you and your team mates have been told to take a drugs test? How can you explain that after your fellow team mates took the test, you did not, and furthermore, after being told by your team mates you had to take a test, why did you not take it? Why did Ferdinand then leave the premises, and travel to an external doctor? Why did Ferdinand not immediatly return to the premises to attempt to take the drugs test? You see, even if Ferdinand did want to take the test, the very fact that what happened above is seriously incriminating. No excuses, and I feel that such deliberate flouting of the rules deserve the ban he recieved. I want to see the verdict of the Negouai case, and the reason why he was fined and not suspended, if the FA have given a clear reason why each verdict has been given, then I can decide whether or not the incidents are identical or not. A missed test is indeed a missed test, and maybe the FA have some explaining to do about each incident and why they gave what they gave, but as far as I'm concerned, Rio Ferdinand deserved an 8 month ban, because he refused to take a drugs test. Maybe it shouldn't be Ferdinand who gets the punishment, maybe it should be United or in the Negouai case, City, because they should be the ones ensuring that the players take the test, but at the end of the day, fining a club isn't going to doing anything, but suspending or fining a player is. I'll come back into this thread tomorrow once I found some details of the Negouai case.