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Old 05-16-2008, 08:06 PM   #32
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KK, not to single you out or anything, but you have been batting for naught in this thread.

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Duh?
Duh to guys using different moves? It is becoming more and more common for a wrestler to be slapped with a random generic move and have it passed off as a finisher. The biggest offences now are flatliners, overdrives, neckbreakers, DDTs and generic suplexes to end matches on Heat.

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If Dorkchop wasn't right (In theory, if not in exact terms), Thrilla might be on to something.
So because Dorkchop was right in theory, Thrilla can't be right in theory? He was spot-on, finishers deserve to be related to a wrestler in a way that helps define and identify them.

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I dunno. When you look at the number of midcard or ME level guys who have had some variation of the Stunner...
Um, hardly any guys have ever used a Stunner. Occasionally guys jawbreaker out of a move, but that really isn't a stunner. Eugene used to do it, and I guess Mr. Kennedy's Neckbreaker finish was sort of a "Reverse Stunner" homage to Stone Cold Steve Austin. The Miz's Reality Check is also apparently becoming more of a Reverse Stunner. I think they are more identifiable as "neckbreakers" though. Most people wouldn't have drawn a Stone Cold Stunner connection.

If you are referring to the ace crusher, then the Stunner is really a version of that, and not vice versa. The RKO and Twist of Fate are both variations of this. I guess the reverse swinging neckbreaker could be classified as that, too.

"Stunner" just seems like one of the worst ways to classify the generic finisher convention, given that no one besides Eugene has used an actual "Stunner" since Stone Cold Steve Austin. Bizarre.
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