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Old 07-17-2008, 01:38 PM   #27
Sebastian
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Sebastian has done some stupid things
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If the fans couldn't accept change, they wouldn't have ever accepted Cena, Batista, Orton, etc.

The spinner belt is crap. Sorry. That has less to do with new ideas and not wanting to see wigger crap on TV.

But then, change for the sake of being different, change with no other purpose, is terrible in both concept and execution, which seems to be what you're endorsing appreciation of.
Incorrect!

Are the fans really accepting Cena, Batista and Orton? Doesn't seem so to me. There is a lot of complaining and unjustified comments made about all three men, Cena and Batista especially. People complain frequently about how Batista shouldnt be getting another title shot when, lets face it, the man is one of this generation's greatest young stars. Batista is what HHH was to late 90's.

Cena is the face of the company and many say he doesnt deserve it, but he paid his dues and he is one of the best total packages in the WORLD. John Cena is to 2000-2010 what Hogan was to 1980-1995 and what Rock/Austin was to late 90's. He is the "IT".

Orton too gets a lot of complaints. Yes, his face run was poor but he is an AMAZING heel and gets way too much flack and not enough praise.

Everyone likes to say "Why is the WWE trying to create a new Rock/Austin? These guys arent Rock/Austin, they suck!". This is simply not true and is false logic because they don't suck, they are just different. It is a new time and time for younger stars.

As far as "Wigger Crap", lets come face to face with reality. WWE is a multi billion dollar company who entertains people. In order to do this, they need to stay on top of the pack and on top of trends. Lets face it, Hip Hop culture is currently where it's at and that is what John Cena represents. He connects to this segment of the population so it works. Its just like Hogan was "All American" in the 80's.

I am not endorsing change for the sake of change, I am endorsing positive change but people seem to think that all change is change for the sake of change.

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It seems Sebastien has a problem accepting opinions that are different to his own.
You're wrong, I have not said anyones opinion is wrong.

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If the fans couldn't accept change, there would have been no Attitude Era.
EXACTLY!

And that is why ratings are in the gutters right now compared to the Attitude era. Back then, people embraced culture and change and thats why the product got so popular. But now people are fussy and reluctant to accept a rising new generation of stars!

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For example, other than the retarded finish to RAW, the last few Monday nights have been a vast improvement over the last... well, several years. The "anything can happen" element makes RAW so much more watchable than it has been in a long time. A new face in the main event scene, a renewed interest in the tag division, a feud between two of the most talented wrestlers of this generation that's involving some of the best workers of the next one... There are a lot of things that have changed that we like.
Well maybe I am not reading deep enough because I dont see too many people writing about some of the recent changes as being good. Instead of saying how good WWE is booking RAW, people complain that Batista laid out CM Punk...which is GOOD BOOKING 101 (No, not because I have anything against Punk, but because it creates REAL heat between the stars).

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My problem with the Diva's title is there isn't enough room to have two women's titles.
Not true, there are a lot of Divas in the WWE and they are spread over TWO brands. It makes no sense to have cool divas like Cherry, Victoria and Nagalia on Smackdown and not have a title for them to fight over. It is a much needed change that has been needed for a long time.

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There is a reason not to accept something that is changing from good to garbage.
What exactly is "garbage" about it? Young new superstars getting a shot at the big time? An exciting new title and expansion of women's wrestling (which is gaining popularity in America because even TNA managed to get a rating boost from women) and more rough storylines that are more gritty? I dont see it, sorry!

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What's wrong with this thread?
Nothing, except maybe that indy title Punk is holding is nowhere near being on par with the rest of them.

I think the mistake that WWE did with Cena's title was when HHH won it and kept it looking the same. The point of the title was that a champ can customize it, like when Edge won it after Cena. HHH should have replaced the center with his skull logo. This, I admit is a place where WWE errored!

Lets come to terms with reality guys. Things are constantly changing and just because they are, it doesnt mean its bad. It seems to be that people's instinctive reaction is to be unhappy with change and then try to justify it and be happy later rather then just take it in and see where it goes as it goes.

Of course, we are all happy to see Punk with the big belt, but even that, I see some criticism over his first feud with Batista.

Come on, the man is feuding with the top dog in the yard, it wouldnt make sense to have him beat up on Batista. It makes sense for Punk to be an underdog here...but thats a whole thread on its own. (This feud is qyite a dileema to book. Do you WEAKEN Batista by giving him a loss or do you ruin your young champ's first reign?)

Also I dont see why people are so angry if a big face goes on a winning streak like Cena did. It is called the mechanics of the wrestling business. You want a guy to suceed, you make him look good and a winning streak helps with that. And Cena's winning streak was actually good and not a bunch of jobber squashings like Goldberg or Kozlov is doing now.
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