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Old 07-31-2008, 02:51 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pierre View Post
I haven't posted in here since the movie came out, but I have to say that I LOVED it. Saw it 4x already. Anyway, I figure I might as well give an opinion into the whole "Was Two-Faced rushed?" debate.

I have to say that I didn't think it was rushed at all. I feel that by having Two-Face die (after his character did plenty of insane things and not saving him for #3), it really drives home the fact that the Joker won.

The Joker did everything in his power to destroy Gotham, and the only two guys that were hopes for the city (Batman and Dent) are now ruined at the end of the Dark Knight. By having Dent die and Batman be this wanted criminal for taking the wrap, it just shows that the absolute worse has happened to the city, because of how smart and evil the Joker is. The ending was perfect, because for once the villain won completely, and it made a lot of sense.
I have to disagree with your diagnosis of the movie's end.

The Joker did not win, because for him to win, Batman would have had to break his one rule, which he never did, as he saved Joker from falling to his death at the very end.

Now, it could be suggested that Joker's back-up plan of turning Harvey Dent into a murderer and monster made him the victor, but it is Batman's sacrifice and willingness to do whatever it takes that still makes Joker the loser.

Yes, things will be harder for Batman, as he will be hunted, hated, despised, and wanted dead for his "crimes." But that's fine. The Batman is a vigilante and the people hate him anyways. That's the point of being Batman; that's the center of his strength: the ability to do what needs to be done and let the people despise him.

Gotham won't lose hope; they'll gain resolve. It's like after 9/11, America didn't immediately lose hope at the sight of Terrorism. They grew stronger and bonded together to fight off the evil at their doors, murdering their people. In Gotham, crime, murder and violence are terrorism, and Batman has made himself a part of that.

As a comparison, how do you think Americans would react if they found out that the Bush administration was part of 9/11? THAT would cause hopelessness and despair, panic and chaos. That would be the same thing as finding out that their white knight, their hero Harvey Dent was a murderer.

I don't think the Joker expected for Batman to take the wrap, and thus, he did not win in this film.
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