[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Noid KK, you are socially retarded. You're one of those special needs folk who doesn't realise they are, but trust me, as a person who has worked with kids who need assistance, you are retarded..

By "worked with," you mean "are," right?

I mean, ignore the fact that you're using the same line I used, almost verbatim. Hell, ignore the fact that you're at best, classic Aspergers. You're making a claim based on words you yourself frequently cannot understand.

And if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black...

It's really cute how you think we have a "you talk I listen" relationship

Which would be nice, were it, you know, true. You may infer this as true, you may assume it's true, but it is not true. Which is indicative of many of the problems in communication with you. Like how you asserted my stance was that Chris Jericho would never come back to WWE, even after explicitly shown quotes to the contrary.

showing complete ignorance of the selective information situation the internet creates.

Back to the "it would be great if it were true" element.

As you "explain" something to me, I am not reading it. I need to consciously come back and actually see what you have written.

*slow clap* Very good. Your grasp of the obvious is incredible! Do you want a cookie?

After I have made my point perfectly clear, I often don't return to the thread. Your "explanation" doesn't even fall on ears, let alone deaf ones.

Yet frequently, you reply to said explanations.

Besides, it is not my responsibility to monitor what you read. You're the only one to blame for your self-opted ignorance. That excuse only works sometimes, especially considering how often this isn't the case, so I'd wager you're just lying, but I can't prove that.

The crowd was not in the palm of the collective hand of DX.

Yes, which is why they were on their feet for DX.

That's why they chanted for CM Punk as Triple H was about to do his shtick.

Which is again, great, but ignores the response just seconds ago for DX. If your entire basis for "outpopping" is that they chanted his name while Hunter had a mic in his hands, you've got nothing to go on, because DX had already gotten a PHENOMENAL response. Sorry.

Your "everyone's a winner" scenario is cute, but by your logic, there can't be a scene-stealer in a movie where everyone is getting along.

It's not a scenario, it's one element mentioned, I think twice.

By the way, you can't extend the logic that way. For one thing, a scene stealer usually isn't coming off a hot performance by someone else.

You're taking a specific and trying to apply it generically. That's dishonest at the least, and most likely retarded.

So what you're saying is that if Funaki was teaming with Triple H, and the fans gave Triple H a standing ovation, and gave Funaki nothing, it is incorrect to say Triple H out-popped Funaki? You're a special needs kid, dude.

Based on a dishonest comparison you made up. If you have to make up reasons to trash me, seek help.

And no, I'm not saying "In (loaded circumstance Noid uses, which ignores context and reasoning), (loaded statement)."

In fact, that usually applies to any time you ask me "So what you're saying is..."

I've amde what I'm saying clear. If you're being honest about not reading after you've said your peace, you're still setting up a defense that ignorance is an excuse. Making blatant assumptions which counteract what I have said should only reflect poorly on you. Somehow, you keep trying to make you own ignorance my problem.

Your way of looking at things also makes assumptions.

I rely on fewer assumptions than you, actually.

Not to mention after all the assumptions you made in this here post, that's grossly hypocritical.

You're assuming that the fans cared about DX more, when there is little evidence to support it.

I'm actually not assuming anything. People were just on their feet at DX's beck and call just a few seconds before. I'm merely observing that which you seem to be ignoring.

If so, you'd think the fans would have been chanting for them

You mean like they were, mere seconds before.

instead of their music getting a pop, and then the fans chanting for Punk.

Too bad you're skipping a step. I've got the DVD, man. I've explained this before, and once again, "ignorance is not an excuse."

Perhaps they did like DX more? You've got no way of knowing that. The flip-side of the argument doesn't need to make these assumptions to be correct. CM Punk got his name chanted over DX. This is a fucking fact.

Except it's not a fact. Saying something is fact doesn't make it true if it's not.

I've also never seen Destor blindly praise CM Punk. I've seen you blindly bash him?

You're at least 50% lying there.

What the fuck are you on about? Before what? All they did was make their entrance and do exactly what The Hardys and CM Punk did. Punk "became involved" before DX started their shtick. If you mean DX getting the best entrance pop, yes, I have mentioned it. You do not see it because you're retarded.

You're either hevily redefining "entrance pop," or you're selectively applying it. Or, of course, just talking out your ass. Not sure which.

It is just as correct for me to assume that DX's recogniseable and popular music got the crowd on their feet as opposed to who DX are, if you're allowed to attribute the fans chanting for "CM Punk" when they really meant "DX." God, you are so hopeless sometimes.

No, it's not. And this is why it amuses me when someone who cannot even apply proper reason to a discussion calls someone retarded. You know, since the music was gone and all.

But then, you're doing another common "noidism." You just said you don't know what I'm talking about, and having continued to argue it. You can say it's hypothetical, but it often leads to your steadfest conclusions. First you assume, then it becomes hard fact, even if told explicitly that it's not.

I'm not sure what version of the video I posted, to be honest.

So you're relying on a version of the video you don't know about, and I'm relying on a DVD version. I'd even allow for edited crowd response, except the crowd was on their feet for DX, who were already in the ring.

As has been said before, nobody's saying CM didn't get his name chanted, or even that it wasn't a nice sized pop.

Triple H obviously didn't feel comfortable with the situation, because he improvised and let CM Punk deliver the "Are you ready?" line, probably to remind the crowd that DX and Punk were teammates for the night. And Punk did lose his undefeated streak to Hardcore Holly the following edition of ECW, and was then the first to go in the Extreme Elimination Chamber the following weekend. Just saying. If "DX were in control," none of that would have happened.

That's speculation and assumption, and if you want to go there, fine. But from someone talking about how my statements make assumptions, you really shouldn't be bolstering your own assertions with similar assumptions.

Even if you take the entrance pops into consideration (which I had anyway), it's the build that's important. If someone goes out there and gets nothing, and then gets something, they are successful. Punk getting a smaller entrance pop than DX can be easily explained. The crowd were getting warmed up. When all five guys were in the ring, all the cards were on the table.

And the entire arena practically responded to DEEEEEE ECKSSSSSSS!

You can make as many back end justifications as you want (such as "the crowd was getting warmed up"), but....

The Philly fans, ROH marks they were, chanted for CM Punk. End of discussion.

A cloud is made of water. If I throw water up in the air, I will make a cloud. End of discussion.