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**Johnny Vegas** · 10-28-2008, 11:39 AM

I believe that HHH is only as good as someone who is a GREAT face. By himself, face or heel, i dont think he can carry the company on his back like Austin, Flair, Rock, etc. That is not taking anything away from the man, i like his in-ring work, his mic skills are awesome, and he has a GREAT heel persona. But like his best friend, when put on top, there is just something about them that are not boosting the ratings or keeping fans.

The 3 guys that i mentioned not only had die-hard fans, but brought in new fans. Of course HHH helped with that boom in the attitude era, but i think that HHH, HBK, nor Brock had/have IT to basically carry the company by themselves to another boom. HBK was in his prime around 96-97, but the company was nearing backruptcy or barely holding up. HHH's prime, arguably, was 99-00 but some can say that it was HIS TIME 2002-04. But where did the company go during that time?

So i think it really had to do when Rock left in 2002, SCSA left, and how Vince portrayed the WCW/ECW to the WWE fans/public. What makes it so bad, is that those same WCW/ECW stars that they pretty much squashed were the most popular ones in the company (Booker T, RVD, DDP, etc.) Vince, fuck your ego, think of your fucking business you jackass lol. People say that Vince is a genius. I think he gets WAY too much credit than he deserves. Sure, he owns the company and made Austin look like the best thing since Hogan, but don't think that Vince was behind ALL the golden stuff in the attitude era. If anything, Eric Bischoff, as much as people shit on him, should get more credit than he deserves. He almost put a company that has been around for about a CENTURY to bankruptcy in a matter of how many years???

Lol lets break down some of Vince's public ideas, and then guys on the booking such as Russo:

XFL: Vince
The Rock: Russo
Bodybuilding Federation: Vince
Austin/Vince angle: Booking
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I could keep going, but i'm not going to.

10-28-2008, 11:39 AM	#47
Johnny Vegas Head on a Rollercoaster Posts: 6,756	I believe that HHH is only as good as someone who is a GREAT face. By himself, face or heel, i dont think he can carry the company on his back like Austin, Flair, Rock, etc. That is not taking anything away from the man, i like his in-ring work, his mic skills are awesome, and he has a GREAT heel persona. But like his best friend, when put on top, there is just something about them that are not boosting the ratings or keeping fans. The 3 guys that i mentioned not only had die-hard fans, but brought in new fans. Of course HHH helped with that boom in the attitude era, but i think that HHH, HBK, nor Brock had/have IT to basically carry the company by themselves to another boom. HBK was in his prime around 96-97, but the company was nearing backruptcy or barely holding up. HHH's prime, arguably, was 99-00 but some can say that it was HIS TIME 2002-04. But where did the company go during that time? So i think it really had to do when Rock left in 2002, SCSA left, and how Vince portrayed the WCW/ECW to the WWE fans/public. What makes it so bad, is that those same WCW/ECW stars that they pretty much squashed were the most popular ones in the company (Booker T, RVD, DDP, etc.) Vince, fuck your ego, think of your fucking business you jackass lol. People say that Vince is a genius. I think he gets WAY too much credit than he deserves. Sure, he owns the company and made Austin look like the best thing since Hogan, but don't think that Vince was behind ALL the golden stuff in the attitude era. If anything, Eric Bischoff, as much as people shit on him, should get more credit than he deserves. He almost put a company that has been around for about a CENTURY to bankruptcy in a matter of how many years??? Lol lets break down some of Vince's public ideas, and then guys on the booking such as Russo: XFL: Vince The Rock: Russo Bodybuilding Federation: Vince Austin/Vince angle: Booking . . . I could keep going, but i'm not going to. Last edited by Johnny Vegas; 10-28-2008 at 11:41 AM.