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We're not talking about heel Shane though. You make solid points, but Shane has also kicked the shit out of solid guys. Same with Vince.
They've always been portrayed as badasses WHEN THEY'RE FACES
If they're heel, they're pussies. Heel Shane gets knocked around the ring, but face Shane beats the bag out of Angle and Kane.
Heel Vince gets squashed, and runs from fights. But face Vince comes storming to the ring and knocks out HHH or whomever with one punch.
We're dealing with face Shane, and he has always been credible.
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