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**Jeritron** · 02-03-2009, 05:21 PM

I disagree that he was huge. He wasn't. Like I said, he hadn't been in anything that was a hit, nor was he a well know/marketable name. He was just as good of an actor, and he was certainly famous in the sense that he was a movie actor in cult favorites. Nothing he was in was a big hit, and he wasn't a marquee name.
He was not huge. He just wasn't.
He was a great actor in great movies, that weren't successful financially. Most of them weren't even wide releases. Like I said, the most exposure he probably had was the bad guy in Shaft, which was a flop.
You and me may consider American Psycho "big" because we like it. It wasn't big though. It was a small film with only a cult following, that didn't even arise until a few years after it was released and word spread.

He was recongizable as the kid from Newsies, but he had yet to get big. That happened with Batman. THEN the roles started coming in. Prestige and 310 to Yuma, and Rescue Dawn.
Which, were much bigger films than he had been in before, but still weren't big hits.
Just recently he's become Hollywood's "it" guy.

So what I'm saying isn't that he wasn't in good movies, or successful beforehand. He was. Just nowhere on the level that he has been recently. So what I was saying, is that perhaps that went to his head a bit. I don't know. Just an observation.

He made the comment "I'll leave this set unless you're fired if this happens again."
That's a threat. It's a threat because he's a huge star now and the movie's success will have much to do with his involvement. In the past, he didn't have that type of clout. He wasn't a huge box office draw, so that threat wouldn't have much weight. Especially since he wouldn't be in that type of movie.

I think we're just getting eachothers arguments mixed up. I have nothing against Bale's work pre-Batman. It was excellent. I just think it's a fact that he wasn't a huge actor until afterwards.
Sort of like Daniel Craig. Bond made him. Yea, he was around before that and he was well known across the pond but he wasn't in huge releases and showing up on fuckin Oprah and Late Night talk shows.

02-03-2009, 05:21 PM	#45
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	I disagree that he was huge. He wasn't. Like I said, he hadn't been in anything that was a hit, nor was he a well know/marketable name. He was just as good of an actor, and he was certainly famous in the sense that he was a movie actor in cult favorites. Nothing he was in was a big hit, and he wasn't a marquee name. He was not huge. He just wasn't. He was a great actor in great movies, that weren't successful financially. Most of them weren't even wide releases. Like I said, the most exposure he probably had was the bad guy in Shaft, which was a flop. You and me may consider American Psycho "big" because we like it. It wasn't big though. It was a small film with only a cult following, that didn't even arise until a few years after it was released and word spread. He was recongizable as the kid from Newsies, but he had yet to get big. That happened with Batman. THEN the roles started coming in. Prestige and 310 to Yuma, and Rescue Dawn. Which, were much bigger films than he had been in before, but still weren't big hits. Just recently he's become Hollywood's "it" guy. So what I'm saying isn't that he wasn't in good movies, or successful beforehand. He was. Just nowhere on the level that he has been recently. So what I was saying, is that perhaps that went to his head a bit. I don't know. Just an observation. He made the comment "I'll leave this set unless you're fired if this happens again." That's a threat. It's a threat because he's a huge star now and the movie's success will have much to do with his involvement. In the past, he didn't have that type of clout. He wasn't a huge box office draw, so that threat wouldn't have much weight. Especially since he wouldn't be in that type of movie. I think we're just getting eachothers arguments mixed up. I have nothing against Bale's work pre-Batman. It was excellent. I just think it's a fact that he wasn't a huge actor until afterwards. Sort of like Daniel Craig. Bond made him. Yea, he was around before that and he was well known across the pond but he wasn't in huge releases and showing up on fuckin Oprah and Late Night talk shows.