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Originally Posted by The CyNick
If you put HBK and HHH in a group together people will automatically think DX, that puts Orton in a spot where he's an afterthought to HBK and HHH. Thats not good. Orton just has to stand up to Hunter and he's a main eventer. I think I say this every coupld of weeks, but Orton is already basically a main eventer.
DX added a bunch of mid card guys, and it was lead by a guy who was further down the card right than Orton is right now. Yet DX managed to be the hottest thing in the comapny next to Austin. Orton can easily lead a group of mid card guys and make them main eventers 6-8 months from now. For proof, look at how easily the WWE got Benjamin over to main event level, all he had to do was beat HHH and the fans were with him. Same could happen with guys like Maven or Cade (or why not add Benjamin to the group?)
In terms of HHH not being a successful face, who cares? HHH shouldn't be looked upon to be the main guy in the company, but he is. He's not effective as a heel in terms of drawing money (yeah he gets some pops, but show me a promoter who makes money off pops and I'll show you a flying monkey), so what would it matter if he's ineffective as a face in drawing money? It would eb the same thing.
You talked about Flair, and he should also be a face, which is why I think an alliance between HHH, HBK and Flair would be effective because fans could cheer them all instead of forcing them to do something they dont want to.
And furthermore if they really wanted to turn HBK heel, which I still maintain wont work (in large part because HBK is a 'different person' now) they should throw him on SD where they actually need heels.
Orton vs HHH should be the focus for the company, nothing should get in the way to complicate that.
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I would of responded to this thread in a broader manner, but I haven't been on here the last week and a bunch of people already said everything I would say. But Yeah CyNick, I was thinking last night while watching Raw that if Orton and Batista ever break away from Trips and Flair, Shelton Benjamin would be an EXCELLENT Candidate to add to The "New Evolution" Stable. I was thinking because he's so over with the fans right now and usually heel turns work best when guys are really over with the crowd. Take Rock right before he turned Corporate. They add Maven to the group when he returns and I think there set. The only problem I see however, is that Benjamin is looking mega strong right now and him and Orton seem to be on the same level. If Benjamin turns then it would seem like a group with two leaders.
Now I definately see Orton on HHH's level in the next 4-5 months. I know you're always going to disagree with this Nowhere Man, but I think Orton can hold his own and be a legitimate threat to HHH come Mania next year if they ever do the match. But he should really start the process of turning of Trips and Flair within the next 2 months. Like I said before, it should be a slow turn that should be built up toward a final blow in which we actaully see Orton, Batista and whomever attack HHH and Flair. Then HBK would come down and him and Trips would do the hug thing.