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**Alan The Rapist** · 05-17-2009, 09:22 AM

The anime cartoons are not watchable. I couldn't even stomach Beast Wars. So none of that has anything to do with what I'm talking about. It sells bad looking toys to kids, but I was talking about the comic lines, which are just as serious, in relativity, as the Batman series.

As for TDK, you're taking the comparison too far. I don't expect any superhero/comic movie to do what that did, because Nolan was trying to make it NOT fantastic. Batman and his villians, for the most part, and not super. They're regular people doing amazing things. But they're still people. THings like Superman and Iron Man won't be able to achieve even the tone that TDK had let alone the story complexity. The reason to bring it up is that any comic book can be treated with respect and made into a damn fine movie. Except, like.. Archie. That would blow. But any movie can get either a shitty series (Tim Burton Batman Movies) or an excellent series (Nolan Batman Series). That was the point.

As for cults, I still call bullshit on that claim. The Nolan Batman movies just looked amazing, and that's simply talking about the trailers. They were a known name with an impressive preview, and it brought veiwers in. Bay's TF was nothing but special effects and cliche filler, so of course the trailers were packed with action shots. Aesthetically, to non fans, it looked great. But the movie was shit. And you got a lot of people going to see a movie that wasn't actually about TransFormers at all, because it had big terminators and action scenes. And hot chicks. Had TF had a real story, and characters and acting and stuff, then it'd probably been great. I woulda been thrilled if any of the transformers even looked like the characters they were supposed to be. In that case, it would have been even better. But it's a pretty bad movie, where characters are wrong, like in the shitty He-Man movie, and where the action is blurry and overdone, like in Bay's unwatchable classic "The Island", and where the personas are about as relevent as...well, they just aren't. But I digress...

My point is, if it had been a good movie, as hyped as it was and with a known name like TransFormers, it would have been big regardless. But it was bad, and it was still big, so you got a big reception for a shitty movie. Yay for Hollywood. Maybe they can make three progressively inferior sequels and then wise up and make a good one.

05-17-2009, 09:22 AM	#267
Alan The Rapist Whoaball! Posts: 457	The anime cartoons are not watchable. I couldn't even stomach Beast Wars. So none of that has anything to do with what I'm talking about. It sells bad looking toys to kids, but I was talking about the comic lines, which are just as serious, in relativity, as the Batman series. As for TDK, you're taking the comparison too far. I don't expect any superhero/comic movie to do what that did, because Nolan was trying to make it NOT fantastic. Batman and his villians, for the most part, and not super. They're regular people doing amazing things. But they're still people. THings like Superman and Iron Man won't be able to achieve even the tone that TDK had let alone the story complexity. The reason to bring it up is that any comic book can be treated with respect and made into a damn fine movie. Except, like.. Archie. That would blow. But any movie can get either a shitty series (Tim Burton Batman Movies) or an excellent series (Nolan Batman Series). That was the point. As for cults, I still call bullshit on that claim. The Nolan Batman movies just looked amazing, and that's simply talking about the trailers. They were a known name with an impressive preview, and it brought veiwers in. Bay's TF was nothing but special effects and cliche filler, so of course the trailers were packed with action shots. Aesthetically, to non fans, it looked great. But the movie was shit. And you got a lot of people going to see a movie that wasn't actually about TransFormers at all, because it had big terminators and action scenes. And hot chicks. Had TF had a real story, and characters and acting and stuff, then it'd probably been great. I woulda been thrilled if any of the transformers even looked like the characters they were supposed to be. In that case, it would have been even better. But it's a pretty bad movie, where characters are wrong, like in the shitty He-Man movie, and where the action is blurry and overdone, like in Bay's unwatchable classic "The Island", and where the personas are about as relevent as...well, they just aren't. But I digress... My point is, if it had been a good movie, as hyped as it was and with a known name like TransFormers, it would have been big regardless. But it was bad, and it was still big, so you got a big reception for a shitty movie. Yay for Hollywood. Maybe they can make three progressively inferior sequels and then wise up and make a good one. Last edited by Alan The Rapist; 05-17-2009 at 09:42 AM.