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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man That absolutely drove me nuts. I mean, the entire point of the Terminator franchise, the whole reason Kyle Reese and any of the Terminators were sent back in time, was that you can change the future. Then in T-3, Arnie says that it's all 'inevitable' anyway, thus making anything that anyone does in the movies completely pointless.

kyle went back in time to protect sarah and concieve john so that he could lead the humans against the machines. John Connor's whole existance is proof that judgment day was destined to happen because a man named kyle reese has to come back somehow. Its like a self fulfilling prohecy.

Terminator 2 was about changing the future but as you can see from the idea you get from T1 you can only change it a little. Which is why you hear in the previews for this next movie, that this war isnt the one his mother warned him about.

Originally Posted by thedamndest I'm not sure about how it worked out in regards to a "timeshift" since in T2 Arnie did say Judgement Day actually occurred in 1997. That would imply that by averted it until 2004 and changing the events, John Connor would have literally changed the future and erased Arnie and himself from existance. That's my larger concern.

Skynet still knew that he had a connection with a model that looked like that. Thats why the model was sent to kill him and once it did, it was sent back by the humans to protect him.