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Old 07-04-2009, 07:33 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Rob View Post
Kongo does have superb striking and has only ever been stopped once in his career and it wasn't in the UFC (5-6 years ago). I can't see much that Mir offers that would make this change. Guys with better grappling than Mir have failed to take Kongo down.

Velasquez's striking is being hugely underrated here. Mir's chin is being even more overrated. I don't care if Carwin punches at the speed of Pacquiao or Foreman, he hits Mir and it's over.

I can see your point on Nogueira but I believe the guy who beat Herring and Sylvia who under performed would still beat Mir. And the Brandon Vera who smashed Mir the last time or the Brandon Vera who put on a clinic last time out would spell the end of Frank Mir.

Again, my opinion only.
What heavyweight has kongo fought with better grappling than mir? I can see maybe a case for assuerio silva but if you go back and look at the match, kongo got taken down at will and won a majority decision. Other than him looking at his resume he has not fought tough grapplers.

Valezques has been in the sport two years. His striking is phenominal for the length of time hes been in it, but I just dont think its good enough yet. Plus hes not that strong of a guy.

To say if carwin hits mir its over is missing the point. given ten times, how many times would carwin KO gonzaga in one punch? Now nothing against carwin especially because he got up from under gonzaga, but if you want to play the one punch card, then you could pull any HW out of a hat to Serra his ass.
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