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Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim
If you are going to talk about groundballs and pop flys and the such in a debate about the value of a pitcher vs a goalie then you have to include the goalie's defense too. You can't just toss out 1 defense and keep the other for the sake of the arguement.
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I'm not tossing out because it's defense.
I'm tossing out, anything that rely's on a 2nd person, something he(or she) can't control.
IE: you can stop every puck, but you can't make your offense score.
IE: You can throw a perfect spiral to a wide open WR, but you can't make him catch.
That's where I see the difference.