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**thebitch** · 12-22-2003, 12:45 PM

Oh my god. After reading this topic, I'm completely dumbfounded.

How many of you actually read the book?! I saw maybe one....maybe.

1)The beginning with Smeagol and his brother was great.
2)The acting lacked majorly. Frodo over-dramatized the ring's effect on him. He just...lacked overall.
3)The lack of Sarumon. They never did explain what happened to him.
4)Aragorn. The man is the king of Gondor, yes. Seriously, think about it though. If some random jackass came up to you and said "I am your king, bow", would you? No. They left out the whole Kingsfoil part. In the book, when Faramir is injured, after they take him out of the place where they're going to burn him, Aragorn comes in to save him. He asks for Kingsfoil, and a random person around him says "That's a weed. Only the King can use it to heal somebody", they get the kingsfoil, he uses it, and saves Faramir.
5)Faramir and Eowyn's romance: At the end, it just shows them together. It doesn't show them getting married, nor the romance between them. That is a huge plot point. Faramir of Gondor and Eowyn of Rohan getting married ties the two nations together.
6)The Gray Havens: They only showed the last boat going, which is like the book described. First off, Ciridan the Shipwright didn't have a beard. He is the only Elf in Tolkien's books that has a beard, and they didn't show him with one. Frodo also failed to mention that he left Bag End to Sam and Rosie.
7)Bag End: At the end of the movie, once the Elven leaders, Gandalf, Frodo and Bilbo leave for the Havens, Sam and Rosie are supposed to be living in Bag End. Sam/Rosie lived in Bag End with Frodo for the years after the War, but it wasn't Bag End that Sam/Rosie lived in at the end.
8)Aragorn: ---edit--I stand corrected --end edit--
9)Arwen and Elrond: They never mentioned in the movie that Elrond, Arwen, and Elthend (did I spell that right?!) were all half-Elven. They have to make a choice whether to live the mortal life, or an immortal Elven life. Elrond picked an Elven life, so his children (Arwen and Elthend) had to make a choice. Arwen chose mortal life, and Elthend chose Elven and left to the Havens as well.
10)Legolas: Peter Jackson did a great job covering a hole in Tolkein's writings. Legolas Greenleaf is the only Elf in the books to have a last name. All other Elves have a special thing to go around thier names, but they are all Royalty. True, but so is Legoals. Galadriel and Celeborn are the Lady and Lord of the Wood. Master Elrond is the lord of Rivendell, with Arwen being the Lady of Rivendell. Legolas Greenleaf is the Prince of the Elven Relm near Mirkwood, Yet he is the only Elf to have a last name.

Overall: This was a great trilogy. Peter Jackson has balls, and it was either a hit-or-miss situation, and he definitly hit. I'm looking forward to the extended version DVD of the movie, to see if these scenes were actually filmed or if they were just cut. After 3 years of rigorous filming, interpreting, and battlescene after battlescene, Jackson made a set of books into a Glorious thing. Now, he just needs to do the same to "The Hobbit" and possibly the Samarillion. 8/10

12-22-2003, 12:45 PM	#79
thebitch thebitch is back Posts: 174	Oh my god. After reading this topic, I'm completely dumbfounded. How many of you actually read the book?! I saw maybe one....maybe. 1)The beginning with Smeagol and his brother was great. 2)The acting lacked majorly. Frodo over-dramatized the ring's effect on him. He just...lacked overall. 3)The lack of Sarumon. They never did explain what happened to him. 4)Aragorn. The man is the king of Gondor, yes. Seriously, think about it though. If some random jackass came up to you and said "I am your king, bow", would you? No. They left out the whole Kingsfoil part. In the book, when Faramir is injured, after they take him out of the place where they're going to burn him, Aragorn comes in to save him. He asks for Kingsfoil, and a random person around him says "That's a weed. Only the King can use it to heal somebody", they get the kingsfoil, he uses it, and saves Faramir. 5)Faramir and Eowyn's romance: At the end, it just shows them together. It doesn't show them getting married, nor the romance between them. That is a huge plot point. Faramir of Gondor and Eowyn of Rohan getting married ties the two nations together. 6)The Gray Havens: They only showed the last boat going, which is like the book described. First off, Ciridan the Shipwright didn't have a beard. He is the only Elf in Tolkien's books that has a beard, and they didn't show him with one. Frodo also failed to mention that he left Bag End to Sam and Rosie. 7)Bag End: At the end of the movie, once the Elven leaders, Gandalf, Frodo and Bilbo leave for the Havens, Sam and Rosie are supposed to be living in Bag End. Sam/Rosie lived in Bag End with Frodo for the years after the War, but it wasn't Bag End that Sam/Rosie lived in at the end. 8)Aragorn: ---edit--I stand corrected --end edit-- 9)Arwen and Elrond: They never mentioned in the movie that Elrond, Arwen, and Elthend (did I spell that right?!) were all half-Elven. They have to make a choice whether to live the mortal life, or an immortal Elven life. Elrond picked an Elven life, so his children (Arwen and Elthend) had to make a choice. Arwen chose mortal life, and Elthend chose Elven and left to the Havens as well. 10)Legolas: Peter Jackson did a great job covering a hole in Tolkein's writings. Legolas Greenleaf is the only Elf in the books to have a last name. All other Elves have a special thing to go around thier names, but they are all Royalty. True, but so is Legoals. Galadriel and Celeborn are the Lady and Lord of the Wood. Master Elrond is the lord of Rivendell, with Arwen being the Lady of Rivendell. Legolas Greenleaf is the Prince of the Elven Relm near Mirkwood, Yet he is the only Elf to have a last name. Overall: This was a great trilogy. Peter Jackson has balls, and it was either a hit-or-miss situation, and he definitly hit. I'm looking forward to the extended version DVD of the movie, to see if these scenes were actually filmed or if they were just cut. After 3 years of rigorous filming, interpreting, and battlescene after battlescene, Jackson made a set of books into a Glorious thing. Now, he just needs to do the same to "The Hobbit" and possibly the Samarillion. 8/10 Last edited by thebitch; 12-22-2003 at 12:55 PM.