Thread: Has anyone in WWE history held as many belts as The Miz currently has?
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:53 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by Jeritron View Post
It's not any different than someone who has held a singles title and one half of the tag titles at the same time though.
Tons of guys have done that.

The only difference in this case is the actual number of belts he physically posesses. It's just hardware though. Even though it's two sets of tag titles, they're "unified" and decided in one fall. Technically, it's one title.
The US title could be carried around in the form of 13 title belts, but it wouldn't change the fact that it's one title decided in matches as one object.
Yeah, I know. I am talking about the hardware, though. It's just useless trivia, but it's a fact. Right now, three championship belts are in the kayfabe possession of The Miz. Kane might have a claim, but technically, The Hurricane was the rightful holder of one of the tag belts. Big Show has his tag belts.

And yes, it does come down to the Tag Team Championship currently being represented by four belts instead of two. And you are exactly correct about your US Title analogy. But I'm not talking about the "number of titles." I am talking about the number of physical belts.

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Originally Posted by Jeritron View Post
I would argue this is a little different, because Jericho won both belts seperately in different falls. First against The Rock, and then Austin. He pinned both existing champions and unified the belts himself.

From that point on though, they were treated and defended as one unit. So I agree with that.
HHH was definitely not, since he won it in one fall as one title.
This. You are essentially making the same point, it's just a different way of looking at it. Chris Jericho won the "World Title"/WCW Title from The Rock. This reign is official. Then Chris Jericho defeated Stone Cold Steve Austin for the WWE Championship. Now, we know the WWE Championship's lineage is the same as the WWE Title's -- so essentially what we got was the WCW Title ceasing to really exist as an active championship -- even if it still existed as a physical presence on the shows.

Now, you could make the arguement that this happened as soon as Jericho won the WWE Title. But does the WCW Title stop existing first, or does Jericho's reign as WWE Champion begin first? I like to think that by winning the WWE Championship, Chris Jericho THEN earned the right to infuse the WCW Title into the WWE Title. I don't think you consider them three reigns, however. The WWE Title just changed its name for a bit, while the WCW Title just ceased to remain active once Jericho won the WWE Title.

The whole goal of that evening was to make one belt redundant because one man had won both the championships. The same goes for Carlito & Primo when they defeated John Morrison & The Miz at WrestleMania XXV. The WWE Tag Team Championship became redundant when Carlito & Primo won the World Tag Team Championship, but that is because they had won the World Tag Team Championship. Having both titles is the cause and unification is the effect.
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