[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD Penner, I like your drive, but you're wasting time posting here. I don't post any of my team's work here. All this place gets is my hypotheticals, one of which had enough promise for me to expand at a later date. TPWW doesn't do constructive anything. Keep on keeping on.

TPWW does do constructive criticism. I've gotten it. Fuck, Penner's gotten it. You've gotten it, it's just that you get butthurt when someone doesn't like your ideas. Shit, even I've given you constructive criticism in the past. When you brush that off, you're going to stop getting it. Which brings me to:

Originally Posted by Penner I don't respect anyone's opinion here.

So why post asking for criticism? Either you do respect opinions of some people here, or you're freaking retarded.

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD I'll put it this way: I've had writing professors, script writing professors, hip-hop music producers, and stage play organizers tell me I'm a good writer with great concepts (albeit overly technical and heavy handed). While I fully recognize the fallacy of living in a 'bubble' and accepting criticism from your inner circle (people predetermined to supporting you), why is it that TPWW - almost universally - pans anybody who puts forward creative work? There's a difference between constructive critique and being a dick, and TPWW misses the mark consistently. I find much more educational to share ideas and 'talk shop' with peers of your particular media, especially people who 'know the game'. Sometimes this forum surprises me; a thread about a ridiculous rock/paper/scissors videogame garnered serious responses from most replies, but I guess the assholes ran out of material. And I understand using TPWW as a 'test the waters, gain exposure' sort of deal, but this place has too many documented cases of posturing for that to work. You literally could do better playing your gigs and holding Q and A sessions with the crowd. TPWW is not the place to grow creatively, at worst it aims to discourage creativity. If genuinely critical posters don't want that kind of rap maybe they should reevaluate how they react to people open enough to share their ideas here.

Kal, buddy, pal....

What is liked by your teachers and the like won't necessarily play out with the public. On top of there being a lot of artists here, one of the reasons you make this stuff public is to get feedback from the people who will buy/listen to/go to shows of your prospective materials.

In fact, someone with some talent (Penner) gets praised on here, even by people who aren't necessarily fans of his style of music. The fact that you're bawwwwing about how discouraging TPWW is might be indicative of something else. I mean, you and Clox and others always seem to pull the "But my mom says I'm cool" card as an excuse for why TPWW is wrong, but others get positive results.

funny that, eh?

Originally Posted by 6-String King Not exactly a cheap program is it. And what do you mean by write the full song? Do you mean write like actual music notes or record? And when you write the drums, do you have to have a midi keyboard?

I use Rhythm Rascal, which is like a 30 dollar program. You input notes "piano roll" style, and can add your own drum tones, which is rare enough in the cheap seats. You're only doing the drums though, but I can output it into Cubase, which came free with my recording itnerface.