[Jordan]

Okay I won't make this long and drawn out.

In ECW, Heyman pushed unconventional talent like Sandman, RVD, Tazz, Mikey Whipwreck, Raven, Dreamer etc...


They were all unconventional, or in some other terms "Off", or "bad". At least thats how they were viewed by the public or Vince and Eric.

RVD, Tazz, Dreamer, Sandman, Balls, and most other ECW Originals failed in WWE, or WCW because they were so "off" thats because only Paul Heyman knew how to make them look comparable to WWF and WCW superstars.

Bottom line, none of the ECW superstars except RVD, The Dudley Boys, Raven, and Rhino has had any comparable success outside of ECW as to what they had in ECW.

In my opinion WWE ruined RVD for me (or us) and himself. Years of being held back physically made him lazy and repetitive. Even though he did use unique RVD offense, he was rarely able to use some of the big spots that made him so fucking cool.

The Dudleys are the biggest success in my opinion, from a kayfabe POV and a realistic. They had a great long run in WWE and made tons of money I would assume, they have had a top run in TNA for years now, and won NJPW tag titles. They will go down as one of the best of all time.

Tazz, well its not a long story, WWE blew it with him quickly and became a jobber and not scary so he was done.

Raven, one of the other questionable characters, maybe he did surpass his ECW excellence in TNA, WCW, but not WWE. He was treated like shit and jobbed out over and over, 22 hardcore titles reigns I believe. Thats not a bragging right.

I do honestly think that Paul Heyman could put these guys back on the top notch radar, they all still deliver from time to time and haven't totally kicked it in yet, wouldn't it be great if TNA did do this ECW Stable, and it turned out to be like 10 times better than WWE's? I think it coud work if they got the real ECW guys, and if you have Raven and Stevie, 3-D, RVD, Foley, bring in Sabu and Tommy... thats EC FUCKING W