[Rob Ban Fan]

Originally Posted by Team Sheep I'm not denying that there's fans in Wales that will only turn up when the team's winning. But it's a completely different argument to compare Wales to England. England is the home of the best league in the world. Qualification should be your minimum expectation, and should go without saying really with the team you have, yet you all cum when you win your qualification group. And it's us Welsh, Scottish and Irish that have to put up with all of your hype and expectations about winning the world cup or a euro championship when you've done nothing since 1966 to warrant such expectations.

Right, so on the one hand you say England has the best league in the world and a good team and we should expect qualification as a bare minimum.

Then on the other hand you complain that the English are all arrogant for having high expectations and there's no basis for these high expectations.

Alright.