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Old 06-28-2010, 07:14 PM   #57
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Originally Posted by The Show Off View Post
Fedor is the best heavyweight of all time based on his skill, his poise and his record. However, on Saturday night he lost to Fabricio Werdum who he should have ran through. Fedor's loss is more of an example of his humanity than anything else. Finally, the cyborg that was able to walk through the treacherous landscape of MMA unscathed finally made a mistake and got tapped. It was crazy that he hung out in Werdum's guard in the first place and then after Werdum almost caught an arm it is unthinkable that such a great fighter would stay in as Wedum locked up the triangle. I was shocked, as was many other people that watched that fight.

If Werdum gives Fedor a rematch any thinking MMA fan would put their money on Fedor, it just makes sense.

Anyway their is a lot of hate going on with Fedor and their has been for a long long time. He was and should have been the Number 1 Heavyweight in the world for a long time until Saturday night.

The debate that used to go on was between PRIDE and UFC and which promotion was better. The only thing that was virtually undebateable was the PRIDE Heavyweights were better than the UFC Heavyweights, thus Fedor the top man in the PRIDE Heavyweight division was the top Heavyweight in the world.

The trouble happened when PRIDE folded and Fedor went out and fought. In the over three years since PRIDE is gone Fedor has fought six times against:

Matt Lindland
A blown up Middleweight that at the time was was considered on the top 10 Middleweights in the world. Since then Lindland has gone on to be not even a Top 20 middleweight.

Hong Man Choi
A freak show match that had really no baring on any Heavyweight rankings, and is totally useless for a Champion. Since then Choi has only one win against Jose Canseco.

Tim Sylvia
A solid Top 10 Heavyweight that despite a loss to Randy Couture ran through a fairly weak UFC Heavyweight division leading to this match. Since Sylvia has lost to Ray Mercer beaten 2 fighters worth nothing and has yet to weigh in under 300lbs for any of them.

Andre Arlovski
Heading into his match with Fedor, Andre Arlovski was the concensus number 2 heavyweight in the world and considered before the fight Fedor's biggest challenge since Cro Cop. Since then Arlovski has lost to an up and commer by the name of Antonio Silva and...

Brett Rogers
Leading up to this match Brett Rogers was barley a Top 10 heavyweight based on beating the very man Fedor had just crushed, only Brett did it faster... Since then Brett has lost to the man that most people wanted to see Fedor fight in Alistair Overeem.

Fabricio Werdum
A lower Top 10 heavyweight at the time of the Fedor fight. Since then...

Those are his last 6 opponents and they serve as a real rorschach test to you as a MMA fan.

In my opinion in his last 6 fights Fedor has 3 worthy opponents, and 3 unworthy opponents.

Compair that to the other 2 men that are concensus Top 3 pound for pound heavyweights...

GSP who in his last 6 fights he's fought 6 worthy opponents.

Anderson Silva who in his last 6 fights he's fought 3 worthy opponents.


Fedor's fights are okay with me. Just answer me who in the heavyweight division has fought better opponents in his last 6 fights?
I get what you're saying but Lesnar is a little different. He was gifted a shot WAY early in his career on name power (and I don't deny that as being unfair, trust me). He beat the top guys in the UFC at the time (except for Big Nog) then got crazy sick and had a long layoff.

Anderson Silva has already run through his division and basically fights anybody because he's already beaten the top guys (Marquardt, Henderson, Maia to an extent, Franklin twice, Forest at LH).

GSP is getting into similar territory. Hopefully Koscheck won't be a dumbass and will actually train his wrestling for this shit.

Fedor was a free agent and had a ton of the top guys he could have faced in the UFC, but went where the money was better. FAIR ENOUGH. But now that he's in Strikeforce, he skipped out on his title shot to fight Werdum. THAT'S where I take issue. None of the other guys actively avoided better competition. They beat them already and only have the division's scraps left to go through. If Fedor doesn't fight Ovareem next, I'm writing him off completely.
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